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  How Far Out of Mind Control Do You Want to Go?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  many of us have come a long way out of the wt imposed "mind control" some much further than others, some still beleive in the judaochristian god and the bible, while other have gone much futher.. but how far have you gotten out of government mind control?

  most of us have been indoctrinated from birth by our parents and then when we went to governement subsidized schools and were further indoctrinated there.

  how far out of this form of mind control have you been able to get out of?.

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  still_in74

  Im a bass player too, and I think i've played tunes from just about every band on that list! And as for making money playing music, bar music it is!

  Rock on!!
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  How Far Out of Mind Control Do You Want to Go?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us have come a long way out of the wt imposed "mind control" some much further than others, some still beleive in the judaochristian god and the bible, while other have gone much futher.. but how far have you gotten out of government mind control?

  most of us have been indoctrinated from birth by our parents and then when we went to governement subsidized schools and were further indoctrinated there.

  how far out of this form of mind control have you been able to get out of?.

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  thanks frankie, I mean that...........
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  Anyone Else from Canada?

  by Miss 8572 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm really intrigued by that fact that i may know some of you and yet not know that i know you.

  i just want to know how many people from canada are here.

  if you don't mind and don't care about posting your province (cause i'm too timid to) we could all get an idea of just how many canucks are really out there.

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  Ontarion Canuck
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  OMG this is unreal

  by Grammy in

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  http://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/.

  these people are so deluded...copied and pasted from the web site...grammy.

  apostate press releasehttp://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/read.php?t=2697&reply=13#msg13 about 2 months ago i read an article about southren baptists and pedophiles.

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  its a guy on his own...............
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  How Far Out of Mind Control Do You Want to Go?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us have come a long way out of the wt imposed "mind control" some much further than others, some still beleive in the judaochristian god and the bible, while other have gone much futher.. but how far have you gotten out of government mind control?

  most of us have been indoctrinated from birth by our parents and then when we went to governement subsidized schools and were further indoctrinated there.

  how far out of this form of mind control have you been able to get out of?.

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  still_in74

  Try imagining a Loving God that is not petty like the Biblical and Mythological Jehovah, one with a sense of humor and a smile on his face, a nonjudgemental God

  thanks frankie, but its amazing how I have never felt like Jeh. was petty, it wasnt Him I felt guilty to. It has always been to the org. How is it we tell ourselves that Jeh. remembers we are mere dust, and that he is a loving god but still feel guilt? I feel it because I am always told to do more, study more, preach more, pray more, attend meetings more, be an example for my wife more, dont stumble others in the cong, set an example, on and on and on. I can never live up to this, No one can ever measure up to this. I feel more guilt because I cant muster up the courage to come clean to my wife about my feelings, more guilt thinking about how my family will view me. Dam my stomach is wrenching right now.

  Guilt is a tool of oppresive religions. It's a tool of an abusive parent

  this is so true, yet JW's will never admit to being oppressed, NEVER. I still cant verbally do it myself! And as for a parent, my mother was the "Queen" of guilt-trips. Between her and the org no wonder I am depressed all the time, although I cram it down pretty good my wife senses it. Now she even used the "D" word today (depressed) Great. Now I'm depressed for wanting to leave the org and she's depressed cause I wont do more in "the truth" and have a family. Oh! Theres my stomach all in knots again!

  Oh well, dont give up on me! Thanks for letting me ramble some more..............
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  How Far Out of Mind Control Do You Want to Go?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us have come a long way out of the wt imposed "mind control" some much further than others, some still beleive in the judaochristian god and the bible, while other have gone much futher.. but how far have you gotten out of government mind control?

  most of us have been indoctrinated from birth by our parents and then when we went to governement subsidized schools and were further indoctrinated there.

  how far out of this form of mind control have you been able to get out of?.

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  still_in74

  I just want to stop feeling horribly guilty everyday of my life for being so disgustingly imperfect. I am not really sure what I have done wrong but I must be really bad cause I feel really guilty all the time.

  I just want to go far enough to actually not feel like that. Did I answer your question? No, I guess not. Great! Now I feel guilty for rambling!
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  Bah weep graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!

  by Paralipomenon in

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  july 3rd.

  are you excited?

  if you understood the title, you know what i'm talking about.

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  I will absolutely, positively, assuredly and without fail see Transformers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  What is/was the last most believable date for second coming/Armageddon?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was never a witness, i joined this site after my wife started studying with them, and i got upset over some of the things that resulted from that.

  however, i grew up in a similar high-control group called the worldwide church of god.

  much like the witnesses, in the mid 70s ( i forget the exact year, i was only in elementary school in those days, but it may have been 75, just like jws), there was a big push toward the end being at hand, the great tribulation is coming, etc etc.

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  i dont know what to believe anymore........... all I know is one day I want to abandon everything, move to Tibet and become a monk...... the next day I want to move to California and be a porn star! Anyone have a coin????
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  Friendly talk with a couple of elders

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last week i received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality.

  and lack of progress.

  i said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years.

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  still_in74

  he didnt know, he stated it clearly. He knew the signs that would lead up to the end but gave no indication that he knew when those signs would begin to occur. Jesus said,

  Note the fig tree and all the other trees: 30 When they are already in the bud, by observing it YOU know for yourselves that now the summer is near. 31 In this way YOU also, when YOU see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near

  Knowing the signs leading up to the end is not the same as knowing when the end will occur. I believe that he did not know as he claimed he didnt. Obviously there will/would come a time prior to the end when Jesus would know in advance however there is no way anyone can use this as reasoning that we can know this, this information is not contained in scripture and anyone claiming they now know the appointed time is absolutely adding to scripture as if it were in anyway indicated in the scriptures Jesus WOULD have known it.
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  Friendly talk with a couple of elders

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last week i received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality.

  and lack of progress.

  i said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years.

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  That means Jesus created Adam AND EVE. Jesus said he didn't know when the end would come. IF it was tied to the date of the creation of EVE, Jesus would know when that was

  Gary, I am always impressed at how intelligent your comments are. I have NEVER considered this reasoning (in this case anyway) and I will never need to hear another refutation of this point again. Your reasoning on this totally and utterly dismantles the "time between Adam & Eve" theory.

  As much as all of this is helping me it is ultimately leading me to the most difficult and trialsome time of my life. I need clean cut reasoning like this to give to my wife and family. Anything too deep, and I wont be able to get my point out before being shut down. Keep these coming!!