my only comment is that I hope your daughter knows how lucky she is to have you....
Best of luck Flipper! My thoughts are with you both.
Still..............
it is truly amazing the varied emotions i've felt since my jw daughter has been talking to me after not talking to me for 9 months .
" i replied, " i haven't said anything about the witnesses today .
she had told me an elder from my area had given a talk in her congregation 30 miles away , and she told him i have issues with the child abuse scandal.
my only comment is that I hope your daughter knows how lucky she is to have you....
Best of luck Flipper! My thoughts are with you both.
Still..............
last year i turned up to make everyone happy.......but this year i just could'nt force myself to go.
some witnesses called on the day to "encourage" us to go....my mum called to make sure i go.....but i just couldn't put my tie on!
after being on this site for awhile i feel like i have moved on.
One day, I will get out the 4 pages I typed with rebuttals and questions that they will never be able to answer. LOVE TO ALL
you should start a topic and post those 4 pages...
I would love to see them!
i finally told another jw about how i am feeling.
exactly how i am feeling.
she is the only jw i know that wont rat me out and she isnt active herself.
I envy this....as I have never been in a situation where I could, other than here on JWD. I think it would be great to have that one on one conversation.
Good for you Still, I am glad you were able to speak your mind.
it was nice but I am only scratching the tip of the tip of the iceburg. I must say I could never imagine one envying my situation. But just know that all of us are in this together on this board. I have been here for over a year and I have just now voclalized my thoughts to anyone, even confessing that I read C of C.
Now if only I could go into this much detail with my wife..... (sigh) - one victory at a time I guess!
Still...........
i finally told another jw about how i am feeling.
exactly how i am feeling.
she is the only jw i know that wont rat me out and she isnt active herself.
thanks everyone,
I appreciate all your comments and support........
i finally told another jw about how i am feeling.
exactly how i am feeling.
she is the only jw i know that wont rat me out and she isnt active herself.
You are right. It *is* a big deal to finally speak what you really think to another JW.
Congrats on the milestone.
-Aude
thanks Aude, nice to know others know where my head is at....
i finally told another jw about how i am feeling.
exactly how i am feeling.
she is the only jw i know that wont rat me out and she isnt active herself.
I finally told another JW about how I am feeling. EXACTLY how I am feeling.
She is the only JW I know that wont rat me out and she isnt active herself. But still.... to tell someone is a big deal to me.
I just went on and on about so many things, the generation, 144k, 1914,1975,1925, blood, Russell, Rutherford, information control etc.etc. I couldnt stop!.
I told her at this point I absolutely do not believe that this is the "truth". I dont want help. I dont need help. There is no going back cause I know too much.
She just asked me what am I going to do? I wish I knew. Could my marriage handle it? I wish I knew. She knows my wife so she has an idea as to what I will be dealing with.
She texted me the next day, she was spinning from everything I told her...
Anyway, I dont know what will come of this but it was a big move for me. Just thought I'd share where I am at right now... Still..........
they brag about the fact that they the don' t baptize their babies because "how can a baby 'know' what religion it wants to believe in the rest of it's life!".
but a 14 year old does?.....they put so much presure on their children to get dunked, that if your not baptize by 18 years old there is something really "wrong" with you.. so the poor kid does it, just to get everyone off their backs.
legally a minor can't be held to a contract if they are under 18 years old and why?
I was 14
everyone else was doing it and I dont want people to think I am not as "good" as the other 14 year olds.
Funny thing was I really only hung out with "worldly" friends and had a few "teenage boy vices" but I was still ready to get baptized.
Looking back I knew nothing about the "truth" - i thought I did. I knew how to answer at the WTS and sell magazines and how to stand out in the hallway during O'Canada and be laughed at and taunted. That was what I knew. The Israelites? Who are they?
Here is something I wonder about?
Why is the WTS so big on pushing children to get baptized but encourage them to wait until older to marry? For the same "trap them in" mentality behind baptizm I would think young marriages would create the same effect.
what goes on behind the doors of the governing body is never published, but it can be surmised that recent years' service reports (which show a disturbing falling off of levels of increase), warrant a special push on getting new members.
with the experience of the 1975 fiasco, the governing body must know that creating a fear of an early armageddon would bring in more members, and the deliverance at hand assemblies did just that, with quite good increases in membership during the 2007 service year at 3.1% of active members.
the following data comparison probably identifies a cause for concern for the governing body :-.
1990 to 1996 (7 years) Increase in active publishers 1,542,613; baptisms 2,219,357; loss 676,744.
2000 to 2006 (7 years) Increase in active publishers 837,782; baptisms 1,835,026; loss 997,244.
so 90-96 for every 3.2 ppl baptized 1 left.
for 2000-2006 for every 1.8 ppl baptized 1 left
2007 to 2014 - for every 0.792 ppl baptized 1 will leave? so a loss of over 200,000???
i wrote a u-tube reply to the jw nbc molestation case.
a dumb ass jw wote me the following e-mail in response!
"first of all boo, obviously something is wrong with you~!!!
Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger
oh WTW, I love reading your substitions.
As many as I have seen, I dont think I have ever actually seen you miss an opportunity by actually putting in the actual term!
it has come to my attention ,that elders are now visiting some d/f folk.. to all elders that read this board.
i want a visit, from as many as possible..come in twos& threes, i would love to see you all again.
i will give hugs & i will even let you eat with me.
I was told they visit DA'd ones once a year
I went 10 years without a "sheperding" visit. why do DA & DF get more attention than down-trodden R&F?