Posts by monophonic

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Did anyone here ever really like field service?

by exwitless in

as i have stated in previous posts, i absolutely hated field service.

hated it.

i dreaded it with a passion and couldn't wait to be done.

monophonic

it was a necessary evil for years...but for about a year before fading i didn't push the magazines too hard and would just read scriptures and discussions w/ people first...with no reasoning book type objection stoppers and treated 'worldly' people with respect....when i did that, i actually liked service and it felt rewarding and i did it on my own terms and people were really cool to me...i think they sensed i wasn't judging them.

but that's all back when i was under the impression that i was in the truth and just slacking off.

field service sucked most of my life....BUT, there were some excellent times when all us teens would be smooshed together in the back seat of a car while our parents drove us around on return visits and i'd sit next to a sister i was hot for, right up against her, it was pubescent heaven and got me through the rough spots....adjusting my leg has much as possible to rub up against hers, accidentally touching hands. yummy!

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info request.*Does wtbts have stock in phillip morris?

by aquagirl in

and if it does,can you tell us where we could find that info?

if this is true,i might not even be able to "fake it" for love ,ya know?

monophonic

so, bethelites and governing body, smoke 'em if ya got 'em b/c you're furthering the work of the witnesses financially.

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Religions similar to JWs.

by LtCmd.Lore in

does anyone know of any religions that are very similar to jehovahs witnesses?.

it tends to come up in discussions with them a lot, they like to think that they are the only ones that don't believe in hell, the trinity, that jesus died on a stake, that they won't go to heaven, or stuff like that.

i could probaby just prove them wrong, but that would take forever and it would be a lot easier to just say: "you're not as unique as you think...".

monophonic

i refer to seventh day adventists as jehovah's witness-lite.

but my knowledge of the adventists is limited, that's only from knowledge of my psycho grandfather's widow who is one...and from third hand knowledge, women can hold prominent positions and i think they're a bit looser when it comes to holidays, not sure about the trinity, but she used to address her letters as 'may jehovah bless you', type stuff.

also, my wife's friend was in something, i think it was the church of christ, or very similar wording, where the member numbers were similar and the shunning seemed spot on as well as the shaming of sexuality. if someone knows what i'm talking about and has the correct name of the church...i'd be interested.

in COC, didn't franz discuss a church that published a magazine similar to the Watchtower and they had the same date as 1914, but when they realized they were wrong, they apologized to their members....that might have been his other book....

as you can see i'm going through the memory of my fried brain, so hopefully someone can make sense out of one of the above better than i can.

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The things that are Wrong with being a JW

by jwfacts in

i have been working on this article for quite some time as it kept getting longer and longer.

if you do not have time to read it all can you please just scan the headings and tell me if there is anything that i have missed.. .

monophonic

thanks for bringing up the issue of graphic inappropo images for children...slide shows of holocaust victims w/ experiences and talks suggesting the same torment was right around the corner at any moment in the usa was very normal when i was a kid in the jws. they can freak out over a little sexual content in r-rated movies, but some of those images we were subjected to as children w/ the propaganda was worse than showing pornography to children.

i still suffer from panic attacks b/c of them, and since i was four years old i always 'knew' i was going to prison and i knew the definition of tarred and feathered while my peers were playing tag i was writhing with anxiety that i was going to die a horrible death at any moment.

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"Crisis of Conscious" question

by monophonic in

since my copy of the book, eh hum, found its way into the garbage and i need to purchase another copy i can't reference it at the moment.. .

can someone clarify for me, in the malawi and mexico chapter(s), 1) the jws were a cultural institution in order for the society to be able to own real estate and if they were a religion, then they wouldn't own the property, or something close to that, right?

2) most importantly, were there some big real estate transactions happening in mexico during the malawi massacre where the society didn't want to do anything to rock the boat on those?

monophonic

thank you for the clarification, and the extra info that wasn't in COC. time to order both his books again and give 'em a read.

truly amazing what goes on.

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"Crisis of Conscious" question

by monophonic in

since my copy of the book, eh hum, found its way into the garbage and i need to purchase another copy i can't reference it at the moment.. .

can someone clarify for me, in the malawi and mexico chapter(s), 1) the jws were a cultural institution in order for the society to be able to own real estate and if they were a religion, then they wouldn't own the property, or something close to that, right?

2) most importantly, were there some big real estate transactions happening in mexico during the malawi massacre where the society didn't want to do anything to rock the boat on those?

monophonic

that's right, and since this time the law has changed in mexico if i remember, so they can now hold property and be a religion, so the mexican jws were so happy that 'the ban' was lifted, when actually it was sanctioned by the wtbts so they could hold property and for no other reason.

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A JW is threting to sue over a Video on YouTube unless its taken down.

by A-Team in

i have to share this, because i actually think he will go through with this...and if he does, i think the wts will be embaressed to no end: the vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpotsd8ml8 .

him to the poster on youtube: .

stity - i must say you have no idea what your talking about.

monophonic

right, got it mixed up with myspace for a second.

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"Crisis of Conscious" question

by monophonic in

since my copy of the book, eh hum, found its way into the garbage and i need to purchase another copy i can't reference it at the moment.. .

can someone clarify for me, in the malawi and mexico chapter(s), 1) the jws were a cultural institution in order for the society to be able to own real estate and if they were a religion, then they wouldn't own the property, or something close to that, right?

2) most importantly, were there some big real estate transactions happening in mexico during the malawi massacre where the society didn't want to do anything to rock the boat on those?

monophonic

thanks blondie, i'll do that.

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A JW is threting to sue over a Video on YouTube unless its taken down.

by A-Team in

i have to share this, because i actually think he will go through with this...and if he does, i think the wts will be embaressed to no end: the vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpotsd8ml8 .

him to the poster on youtube: .

stity - i must say you have no idea what your talking about.

monophonic

in order for the video to stay legally legit, i'd get the music used off of there. i would think that's the first place the wtbts will go is to whoever holds the copyright to those songs to get them to pursue legal action....and youtube will take it down just for that...like they've taken down so many other videos since murdoch took control.

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How Many Former Elders/MS Taught What You Wanted & Ignored The Rest?

by Seeker4 in

jw
friends

this was prompted by the thread on whether you enjoyed being an elder or ms. some mentioned they taught what they wanted when they were an elder.

that was personally true of myself.

there were some things i stopped teaching over the years, and would refuse to counsel the friends about.

monophonic

when i was 'in' i would include quotes from punk bands like social distortion and the dead kennedys in my talks, but make it legit, like, 'a man named mike ness once said that, yadda yadda yadda, something re: the political climate or something'....that was always a blast and my roommate would completely drop his jaw b/c he was the only one who knew exactly what i was talking about.

btw, great thread, it's great to know there is some sanity at times inside the org.