the mind of the fanatic.
steve k. dubrow-eichel.
[this column appeared in the "perspectives" page of the wilmington (de) news journal, on 9/23/01.].
Salvation is by grace through faith yet we are admonished to show evidence of this by our good works.
This ideology is certainly inspiring to others as well and most likely the last thought on the minds of the clowns in control of the aircraft that plowed into the WTC, etc.
Flip
deep, dark secrets.. horrible, ugly things that dwell in shadows.. things no one speaks about.
topics that are avoided.. in some groups, it might be a murder, or an act of incest.. but with the watchtower, of all the dark secrets hidden from view,.
there is one uglier and more horrible than any other by far.. it is this:.
How it eats at their subconscious, telling them
that lives were wasted by mistake?
Met', how's it possible that those who control the WTB&TS are worried about what's left of their respective conscience's as long as the $checks$ keep coming in.
In-flow of cash from publication sales to Jehovah's Witnesses, return on real-estate and investments is all the validation whoever controls the WTB&TS needs to justify their actions to themselves.
Let's face it, no one outside the Witness community cares about how the WTB&TS has screwed up. Whoever controls the WTB&TS knows it and appears to be willing to do the unconscionable to keep it that way.
Flip
dear all,.
it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.
it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.
Prisca, if only I needed to learn how to gather the power to move Heaven and Earth and make you stay...I would.
Flip
on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.
mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.
he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.
In other words, the odds are that the speaker will speak from a pre-printed outline and use his death and funeral as an agenda to promote the Watchtower Printing Corporation and its religious interests.
Doug, LDH suggestion is very good, also it's worth a try to prepare and present a general outline much like you wrote.
I wrote much the same for my father and my active brother submitted the outline for approval. The material was used within the standard JW outline and I felt the elder did a credible job with it. However, this PO had a heart, your dads PO may not.
There were some surprised faces at the Kingdom Hall when the congregation discovered that one of the most frugally dressed, unassuming brothers anywhere, had a WWII military record that made the Rangers of ‘Saving Private Ryan’ look like a Boy Scout troop.
Unfortunately you may have to work within the ‘comfort’ parameters of the presiding elder.
But I feel if the compromise is palpable, it’s well worth it so that as many people recognize the contributions your father has made for his family and community, Jehovah’s Witnesses or otherwise.
Flip
does anyone remember the organisation in the 1980's, how the things that they said seemed to fit so perfectly with the world that existed at that time?
their ideas and prophecies as seen at that time seemed to be correct and everything was falling into place.
i was a teenager at that time and the 'truth' had a very profound effect on me, i saw my family leave the org.
The situation in the world is now so different from that of the 80's
Great post indi’, however the ‘…situation of the world…’ has changed somewhat since the 80’s, I doubt not as much as we think. Maybe your perception of it has matured and become more realistic, while others who simply remain fearfully ignorant become fodder for the ‘WTB&TS printing press’ and the disingenuous within.
But with its credibility now in doubt how will it hold on to its rank and file?
I doubt the WTB&TS is overly worried about its credibility other than how internally the health of the JW community affects revenue and assets, in that regard the WTB&TS has a history of dealing well with damage control because of its inherent frugality.
Also, I seriously doubt it worries about holding on to its rank and file for the most part. Financial investments and asset growth now can easily take up the slack even if the corporation loses a large proportion of ‘hangers on’.
Getting rid of financially irrelevant ‘whistle blowers’ would seem to be their most expedient need along with extending a more open hand to government in an effort to procure a stronger lobby in the effort to protect the ‘special’ way the WTB&TS does business.
Flip
my father was rushed by ambulance from his rest home to st. marks hospital in salt lake city, utah friday, but i only just heard about it.
i received a call from the floor nurse and she told me he is not expected to live.
his lungs are filled fill up with fluid and are continuing to fill u with more fluid: he has pneumonia.
There was only one thing I hadn’t told my dad, and I just did that a few minutes ago.
Right on, Doug, right on.
Flip
following on from the anybody else had visions?
thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).
i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.
lol, julien. Or, in the effort to be consistantly accurate, use the WTB&TS tried and 'true' marketing principle, "...to be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target."
Flip
i am a baptised seventh day adventist and ive had studies for about 6mths with a very nice jw lady.
ive learnt about the wt teachings and attended the kh and the memorial.
n there are some similarities with the adventist and jw teachings such as baptism by imersion, the state of the dead,some adventists dont vote and some adventists beleive with the wt society in the arian doctrine that jesus is a created being and the holy spirit is a force but the vast majority beleive the trinity doctrine.
Thanks for the post barry. You might also inquire what prompted millenarian thought in the first place, here’s one example from an article in the 1998 November issue of Sky & Telescope regarding the significant affect the Leonid meteor shower had on the East coast of the United States in 1833.
“”The world did not end that night, nor the next morning, nor the next Sunday as many fearfully anticipated. But the meteor storm was said to be the main topic of conversation in every circle of the community for weeks afterward. Prayer meetings were held, and for a long time many firmly believed that the Day of Judgment remained imminent and awaited it daily. Historians have speculated that the shower contributed to the great millenarian religious revivals that swept the United States in the 1830s -- movements that permanently influenced the national character and produced new sects and denominations that are with us today. ””
“”For that matter, an Internet search reveals a scattering of people who, 165 years after the night of the great shower, are waiting still. One is Don Gettys, pastor of the McDonald Road Seventh-day Adventist Church in McDonald, Tennessee. He has posted a recent sermon in which he says he believes "the great meteor shower in 1833 did alert us to the beginning of the time of the end."”
The entire content of the Sky & Telescope can be found here -
http://www.skypub.com/sights/meteors/leonids/leonids_1833.html
Flip
i look back on the 1970s with a sense of loss and nostalgia.
i was a young man, just married, and so much in love with my beautiful wife.
i had just started my engineering career, and was debt free.
...and share in return.
Amaz', what ever 'life' you and other former and current Jehovah's Witness may have lost, has been gained by the countless others who've learned from the quality of research provided concerning the WTB&TS corporation that once controlled them.
Thank you very, very much for your time.
Flip
i asked my gf who is a jw but not an active one if she has ever read coc and she tells me she has and that his book was mostly lies about the organization and that's the reason he left was because he was tempted by a hooker and ended up sleeping with her.
he told the elders what he did because he was looking for help and he ended up getting df.
later he found out he ended up contract hiv.
...She told me that the devil was working through the media to get to people.
Brutus, I can imagine your girlfriend must look very beautiful...on the outside.
Flip
