Posts by Flip

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Quality of this Forum

by stevieb1 in

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just a quick thought - i am a firm believer in freedom of speech etc, but having been on this forum for some time i honestly can't say that i can introduce a doubting jw interested in true christianity to this board.

some of the deep discussions on jw doctrine are excellent, but everything else seems to be nonsense in my opinion.

why can't this site be more like the old www.witnesses.net which seemed to have more spiritual meat rather than backbiting, gossip, and rumour and even obscenity.. sorry for my frank opinion

Flip

…You are kidding, I hope.

aChris’, I was, and I wasn’t. However, I agree, in this case, with your assessment of WTBTS monetary motives.

…is willing to destroy lives to make money might as well sell drugs to school kids.

Then again there are those willing to ‘urge’ others to believe what they should or shouldn’t for ’free’ in the hopes of promoting a society of their own interpretation at the expense of others freedoms, by indirectly threatening the latter with their ‘swift’ demise.

Therein lies the seed of suppressing a confident and progressive community and replacing it with a potentially efficient environment of ‘benevolent’ extortion.

Flip

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Quality of this Forum

by stevieb1 in

jw
friends

just a quick thought - i am a firm believer in freedom of speech etc, but having been on this forum for some time i honestly can't say that i can introduce a doubting jw interested in true christianity to this board.

some of the deep discussions on jw doctrine are excellent, but everything else seems to be nonsense in my opinion.

why can't this site be more like the old www.witnesses.net which seemed to have more spiritual meat rather than backbiting, gossip, and rumour and even obscenity.. sorry for my frank opinion

Flip

Judging from all the past success people have had in predicting the time of Christ's return, I think that is one topic of discussion that Christians should wisely avoid.

Why should 'Christians' wisely avoid an amusing pastime?

For example, the WTBTS has been inferring predictions for years and, unless you're extremely rich, they're doing much better financially than yourself.

Flip

PS spare me the, 'well, they'll get theirs in the end!' speech.

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CO&PO came to see me

by GermanXJW in

i have been inactive for a year now.

before that i was quite active, had only an average time slip but did a lot of things you cannot count.

but i had read r.franz and the internet.

Flip

”…this "shepherding call" really helped me to make a decision.
“…Unfortunately for them, I don't think it is the decision they wanted! They really should look at revamping their methods of encouragement if they want them to work!”

Gwen’, Perhaps their methods worked all too well.

Have you ever considered their agenda was to feel out your motives in the attempt to assess your possible negative affect on the remaining congregation you might come in contact with?

In doing so their visit served only as a pre-emptive assessment as a possible means to ‘mark’, or quarantine you from any Jehovah’s Witnesses you might influence with your un-cooperative attitude.

One of the most important activities that assures a profitable corporation is absolute adherence, by Jehovah’s Witnesses, to prescribed appearances of cooperation. Any deviation will not be tolerated too close to ‘home’.

This process has served the organization well for many years, and they’re very good at ‘making sure of all things’ that impact the corporation.

Just remember…don’t take what the organization does too personally, it’s only business.

Flip

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JWs True Christians or Antichrists?

by Belligerent Paladin in

jehovahs witnesses true christians or antichrists.

are witnesses the only true christians on earth?

are they the only ones who truly know what it means to be a christian and to apply those principles in their day-to-day life?

Flip

Jehovah’s Witnesses – True Christians or Antichrists?

Or, their ‘head office’, disguised as a religion, simply evolved into a highly successful publishing and real estate holding company by taking advantage of favorable 'tax wright-offs’ and shrewd American financial know how?

Like, it’s never been done before. -groan-

Flip

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Sorry but U can't be baptized!

by plmkrzy in

if anyone is interested, i have a question about baptism.. i know that in the bible jesus told his disciples to go and gather up all people .

who were willing to listen and make disciples of them baptizing them etc..etc..etc... so basically there would be a kinda pyramid effect taking place from that moment.

in time and on until the end of this system of things.

Flip

After I left the WT and realized through this cult that I had rejected the Body Of Christ, I asked for Gods forgiveness and received it. I forgave myself too.

Same thing happened to me, only…once I realized I didn’t require a God’s forgiveness, I left the WT cult and forgave my Jehovah’s Witness father for forcing me to reject my consciousness.

Flip

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Quality of this Forum

by stevieb1 in

jw
friends

just a quick thought - i am a firm believer in freedom of speech etc, but having been on this forum for some time i honestly can't say that i can introduce a doubting jw interested in true christianity to this board.

some of the deep discussions on jw doctrine are excellent, but everything else seems to be nonsense in my opinion.

why can't this site be more like the old www.witnesses.net which seemed to have more spiritual meat rather than backbiting, gossip, and rumour and even obscenity.. sorry for my frank opinion

Flip

...to ascertain what is meant by the fact that Moses and Elijah, and our Lord Himself, all fasted for forty days."

There's that pesky, '...by the fact...' again.

Flip

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Anybody from California?

by hungry4life in

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i live in northern california.

most of the conventions and get togethers i have seen posted are in the midwest.

am i all alone out here?

Flip

Anybody from California?

I am Canadian, but I've been to Disneyland...twice. Does that count?

Any Californians realize that your State's population almost matches the entire population of Canada?

Flip

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An Opinion Question

by DIMs Wife in

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do you think that it is better to be disassociated or disfellowshipped or do you think that drifting away is the best option?

Flip

If you were me, I'd drift away. Then again you're not me.

I still get to go to weddings and funerals allowing one to associate, albeit in the peripheral, with family, which allows for opportunities of informational influence regardless of how carefully ‘they’ watch out for it.

Flip

-A useless Jehovah's Witness is one that doesn’t promote donating for the literature they take.

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Are You Vegetarian Or Not?

by ladonna in

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with all the "food" "fluff" larc has started, it has made me wonder how many here are vegetarian or meat eaters.. i like my meat in winter, but only in very small amounts.. summertime i go completely vegetarian and relish fruits and vegetables.. how about you??.

ana.

manners require time, and nothing is more vulgar than haste.

Flip

Unfortunately, when I eat, something is going to die.

La, I have to echo Dave's sentiment. If it makes vegetarians feel any better I wouldn't choose eating meat, or anything else for that matter if that scamp, The All Powerful, Creator of the Universe, didn't make me crave flank so much.

You'd think the 'Big J' could have thought up something a little less grotesque and a tad more civilized in the nutritive department.

Flip

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New Book "Awakening of a JW: Escape from WT

by ZazuWitts in

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a few months ago, someone on this forum mentioned the upcoming publication of this book.

i've since been checking the prometheus catalog, and learned it is now available.. the description of it sounds quite intriguing.

http://www.prometheusbooks.com.

Flip

I appreciate your taking the time to post the cover, Fryday.

Flip