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the associated press reports that bill bowen, former elder and anti- sexual abuse activist, has been disfellowshipped by the watchtower society for criticizing the handling of child sexual abuse cases.. read it on-line: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.
rado vleugel
THE NEXT JW THAT COMES TO MY DOOR...IS GOING TO GET AN EARFUL!!They are going to KNOW that the only people who are JWs are either child molestors or child molestor's mothers!
For example, the above bolded statement is hardly truthful and if I were still a Jehovah's Witness knocking on your door and you answered this way, I would think you had gone bonkers.
D', these are very emotional times, no point in making the episode less coherent.
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the associated press reports that bill bowen, former elder and anti- sexual abuse activist, has been disfellowshipped by the watchtower society for criticizing the handling of child sexual abuse cases.. read it on-line: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.
rado vleugel
As it appears that the articles are factual, I suspect the WTBTS, as a business decision, had no choice but to disfellowship Bill and the others and bet on riding out any negative press for the long run.
Otherwise, the corporation may have to face the possible weakening of central control over the substantial printing and real estate empire if the rank and file Jehovahs Witnesses felt empowered by their learned ability to exert external influence upon corporate policy.
Their decision appears to be purely a business one and of no cosmic significance whatsoever, other than the terror of helplessness the abused child or adult must feel today as they realize that they really have no one to turn to at their Kingdom Hall for immediate assistance, administered appropriately and compassionately.
Edited by - Flip on 26 July 2002 9:20:31
i really love this web site and yes i'm a jw still, have been for 8 years now, i'm 35 and am married to a jw and have two boys one is 1-1/2 and the other 5. for about 2 to 3 years now i'm starting to see that its not really the truth.
the brothers, sisters and elders dont really care about anyone, the watchtower is ruining my life, i have been depressed for awhile now and i'm on anti depressants as i started feeling suicidal as i'll never be good enough as i hate meetings, i hate going door to door, and it doesn't make any sense that jehovah will destroy good people just because they don't follow its doctrins.
its like saving to your son if you don't do what i tell you i will kill you.
Welcome Lappy'...you da man!
Flip
a story about a jw man sueing his dr. over blood transfsion was just announced to be on within a few minutes.
truman
my husband is an elder,,,,,
Now that's a scary thought! ugg...have you given any thought as to pro-active alternatives if you find your elder husband in a position to decide your fate in case of serious injury?
our good friend and jwd family member terafera's computer was downed by a nasty virus recently.
debbie, i miss you!!!!!!.
she has let me know that she really misses the board.. let's please let her know how much we miss her!!
I definitely miss terafera...a lot!
a friend sent this post to me and i thought it was was interesting.. silentlambs.
dear barbara and bill:.
concerning the watchtower's actions against you folks and the commendable letter from barb's husband, joe: excellent points about paul airing a congregation's faults btw.. .
It is a sobering reminder of what happens when clergy-instigated intrigues stand in the way of freedom of thought and expression.
If outsiders (not familiar with the tactics of Jehovah's Witnesses) actually read this article, it would be understood immediately that Jehovah's Witnesses do not stand in the way of freedom of thought and expression. Outsiders would be left to assume that open freedom of thought and expression that challenges the conformity of the Jehovahs Witnesses brotherhood, is allowed without sanction.
Also, this article could actually serve another purpose and be referenced during future arguments as written proof that the organization does not condone the suppression of freedom of thought and expression, even within the confines of its own members.
However, the average or uninformed Jehovah's Witness would understand the article differently.
For example, notice how the conclusion of the quote focuses on the term clergy and disregards mentioning the possibility of others, not clergy who might stand in the way of freedom of thought and expression as well.
Since the average, uninformed, rather than disingenuous, member of Jehovah's Witnesses understands that they have no such thing as a 'clergy' and based on the worded conclusion of the article that implicates only clergy as manipulative, it would be difficult for uninformed Jehovah's Witnesses to comprehend that they actually do not support freedom of thought while actively allowing the organization to suppress, via disfellowshipping, freedom of thought and expression that conflicts with current corporate policy.
the other night i was watching "king of .
queens"with a friend and he said you are "carrie"!!!
i thought about it and he was right.. what character are you?
Me? The unsung 'extra' in the background of every movie and television program.
People think I look like Sly Stallone, Bruce Springsteen, Al Pacino and others... - jjrizo
jj', I swear, you also sound exactly like Ed Burns. Or does everyone from Nu' Yawk sound like that.
Flip
according to the your will be done book ..."there is scriptural reason to believe that by the time of the annual celebration of the lord's evening meal on march 26, 1918, satan the devil was hurled down to the earth.
"now this must have been quite the war, since we are taught that by october 1 or 2 1914, satan was waging war with michael and he was thrown to the vicinity of the earth.
that is why since 1914 we have such a short time left.....how do they get these crazy dates and how can people believe this if they really think about it?
...Your Will Be Done book ..."there is Scriptural reason to believe that by the time of the annual celebration of the Lord's evening meal on March 26, 1918, Satan the Devil was hurled down to the earth."
After nibbling a chunk of Sister Zeal's unleavened 'hard-tack' and a tug of bad 'ripple' during the Watchtowers version of the Lord's evening meal...you'd hurl down to the earth too.
ok, i'm new to this site.
i'm currently questioning a lot of things.
i do not want to be "preached at" by either side; that'll just make me leave.
...my husband has studied the Bible and knows what it says, he is probably one of the least religious people you would ever meet.
Totally understandable result.
Welcome WG!
difficult times worsen for shunned father.
***dying teen leaves canada for treatment***
the father of a teenaged leukemia patient who fought against blood transfusions for religious reasons is upset that his wife has taken their daughter out of the country to a secret location where she'll begin alternative treatments.. .
bttt
