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  Scan of "Crisis of Conscience"

  by Santisimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone help me find a pdf version or a scan of crisis of conscience?

  thanks!

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  I think the society really doesn't want any of their speakers to mention the names of any prominent "apostates" like Franz. I only knew about Franz from people who were in the org during the early 80s (my parents and older brothers) and that was in hushed tones. I don't think they'd want to risk letting new people know the name of a person with a dissenting view of the Watchtower until they have the "evil internet" mentality bashed into their skulls.
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  The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Stampy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  below: notice the masonic cross in this freemasonry meeting hall.. .

  in his book the watchtower .

  & the masons fritz springmeier says:.

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  I think back in the day the cross and crown was very common symbolism used by many churches.
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  The official WT position on marriage after death

  by B_Deserter in

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  2. beliefs

  i remember being really turned off to the idea that if you died before or during armageddon and had to be resurrected, then you couldn't get married and god would take away your sex drive.

  is there an offical teaching on this?

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  I remember being really turned off to the idea that if you died before or during Armageddon and had to be resurrected, then you couldn't get married and God would take away your sex drive. Is there an offical teaching on this?
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  Prince...

  by Serg in

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  2. friends

  is he really a jw?

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  I loled at "Say you can't make up your mind? I think you better close it and open up the Bible." So true.
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  Apology for raising children in the Truth

  by jeanne40love in

  1. social
  2. family

  would you apologize in writing to your children for raising them in the truth?

  i've apologized verbally........ none of them is going to meetings any longer...... my husband and i have been drifting away for several years..... .

  i was raised a witness, and thought we were doing the right thing.

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  I don't harbor any ill will toward my parents. They think they did the right thing.
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  "God will not test you beyond what you can bare"..

  by NotSoMuch in

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  (faith lost in the scripture).

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  I hate that scripture because the dubs use it to make people feel guilty for not keeping up with the extreme regiments they put on people. "Too much for you? Nonsense! I says right here that God wouldn't do that, and since these rules come from God, you can do it."
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  Hallelujah ... she's leaving the Borg!

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my online friend who was baptized at 12 years old has finally decided she couldn't make it as a jw anymore.

  with 2 dfs and major depression under her belt, no longer will she be living her life for the elders.

  until armageddon comes" since she's a goner anyway (serving jehovah with wrong motivation, not out of love).. her father recently died, .

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  Great news. Although it is still sad she still believes Armageddon is coming. She'll probably grow out of that though.
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  Your most hated Kingdom Songs ever...

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know that skilled songwriters the brothers are not, so what are your most hated kingdom songs?

  the ones that made you cringe when you saw them listed on the km or watchtower?

  mine?.

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  I would always emphasize the stupid parts and even gesture (like pumping my fist when I sang "VIGOR and VIM!!!") and make everyone around me giggle. Sometimes I'd play the foreign accent game, where I'd sing each verse in a different accent.
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  Your most hated Kingdom Songs ever...

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know that skilled songwriters the brothers are not, so what are your most hated kingdom songs?

  the ones that made you cringe when you saw them listed on the km or watchtower?

  mine?.

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  We all know that skilled songwriters the brothers are not, so what are your most hated Kingdom Songs? The ones that made you cringe when you saw them listed on the KM or Watchtower?
  
  Mine?
  

  • Any song with improper contractions (giv'n and heav'n). The funniest thing is that it doesn't shorten up the words at all, they're still two syllables no matter how much the brothers wish they weren't
  • The songs with words that haven't been in use for the last 150 years like "capracious," "vivacious," and "efficacious." Or the one with the line "let us serve God with real vigor and vim!" What the hell?
  • The songs with the parts in parentheses that not everyone is supposed to sing but they never specify who's supposed to
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  The Skeptics Annotated Bible- Be brave and read it.

  by fedorE in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a collection of all the books of the bible, with all the absurdities and contradicitons verse by verse..... including the christian response to it.....fyi.

  www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm.

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  I've found a lot of the Christian responses are based on extra-biblical cognitive gymnastics. Whenever someone points out something nasty in the Bible, they start the "well, this actually means this and this is tied to this verse here." Basically, whenever the Bible doesn't make sense, it doesn't mean what it's saying.