We can disagree without being disagreeable, right???
We should be able to have our disagreements and go to the corner bar afterward and have a drink!
Flowerpetal
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Just Because We Disagree With Someone Doesn't Mean They're Not Welcomed
by minimus ini am seeing something interesting going on the board here.
if a poster, especially, a new one says something considered unpopular around here, and another poster refutes or disagrees, some people suggest that we're not being kind or welcoming to new ones or to those that have a differing view.
i don't think that this is what we're collectively trying to tell a person that doesn't share the majority viewpoint.
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Why does the society try to keep the R&F so busy?
by Flowerpetal ini was thinking this morning on some things, and the story/series on hbo currently, carnivale, is showing the not so nice side of humanity.
we all have our dark side.
everybody in this world has one, i believe.
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Flowerpetal
I agree that keeping the R&F busy doesn't give one time to think...even those "dark" thoughts that we might have. Of course if every JW started having those kinds of thoughts, it would scare them and they would blame it on the demons rather than think these thoughts were actually coming from themselves.
I think great stories in books, TV series, and movies which show a bit of a person's dark side are open and honest; not holding anything back in portraying the human condition. It's part of who we are.
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Out of the mist
by Greenpalmtreestillmine ini posted here just a little back in january of 2001. i scrambled out of here right quick then since i was still active and fearful of so many things.
i am inactive but not exactly a non jw yet.
i am a conservative person and still believe that some of the teachings of jws are good though i do not agree with everything that's for sure!
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Flowerpetal
Hi and welcome Sabrina!
Sabrina is my daughter's name. I have been a baptized JW for 44 years (got dunked at age 11) and for the past few years, I have been able to set myself mentally free from the org. So when I go to meetings now, I can look at them with a critical eye. It is really liberating!
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Flowerpetal
My parents were raised in the depression and that mentality was passed on to me. (Can't waste anything) so I'm a little screwed up from that....plus my daughter says we are a bit dysfunctional as a family---but she realizes that a lot of people who grew up in the '60's were that way.
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Only In America.
by Englishman inwe've been home for 5 days now.
we've met some wonderful people too.
hl and i loved america and the americans.. i thought i'd just post a few observations about how we as brits saw your country.
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Flowerpetal
I was born and raised in the north by southern parents--so I am quite, quite familiar with grits and love it!!!!! I guess you could say I'm a GRITS girl too because I have that southern culture.
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Flowerpetal
That was beautiful Blueblades....I lost my mom earlier this year and it's still hard.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-9-03 WT Study
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 11-09-03 wt study
review comments will be in black and parentheses ().
wt quotes will be in
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Flowerpetal
Thanks Blondie! Now I am fully prepared for tomorrow's study!
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Why does the society try to keep the R&F so busy?
by Flowerpetal ini was thinking this morning on some things, and the story/series on hbo currently, carnivale, is showing the not so nice side of humanity.
we all have our dark side.
everybody in this world has one, i believe.
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Flowerpetal
I was thinking this morning on some things, and the story/series on HBO currently, CARNIVALE, is showing the not so nice side of humanity. WE ALL have our dark side. Everybody in this world has one, I believe.
So I came to the conclusion that might be one reason why the society tries keeps the R&F so busy doing "righteous things" and thinking "righteously", etc. Instead of openly admitting that because of human imperfection, we do have dark sides, and as long as we don't act on them we shouldn't worry so much, this part of humanity is absolutely ignored OR is blamed on Satan and the demons.
Do any of you have similar thoughts?
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THEY'VE DONE IT!!!! The WBTS set a new date!
by dmouse inthe latest watchtower, dec 15th 2003, is an out and out attack on the rank and file for dropping into a drowsy state spiritually.
ok, so armageddon didn't come before the generation of 1914 grew old and died.
but does that mean that the big a isn't near?
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DO MORE 'TIL 34!!!!!
We are having the visit of our circuit overseer this week (tomorrow is his last day with our congregation). He hinted in his talk on Tuesday night that there is a trend being noticed that all publishers seem to want to do is the minimal--placing magazines and that's it. No return visits or attempts to start Bible studies. He read some scriptures about the apostle Paul and how dedicated he was to his ministry--even a quote from him saying he owed the people a debt of preaching the good news. We should be that way too--we are in debt to the people of the world--we owe them the good news. He also hinted that if we don't preach, well could be our fault that these people are "scheduled to be destroyed at Armageddon." (Do more) On Thursday night he mentioned (we have a small congregation of 79 publishers) that since a few more have been added to the ranks of regular pioneers, this brought down our congregation average from 8.5 to 7.5 so that means the congregation will have to work harder to bring our average back up. (Do more) I truly wonder what would happen if an entire congregation were regular pioneers--they would have to work hard to get just average congregation publishers (a regular Joe) to come to that congregation and keep them publishers? Then the society's viewpoint that everybody should be a pioneer is a contradictory one. Oh well...just venting here. I hope I didn't hijack the thread.
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CHURCH OF JEHOVAH
by [email protected] in.
please be reminded of this alternative now that the watchtower society has brought horrible reproach upon god's good name.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/churchofjehovah/
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Flowerpetal
Last time I looked there was a post at the top of the page that said 'All Welcome'. How welcome has this poster been made to feel? One of the things I didn't like about being a jw was being told what I could and couldn't believe, and them having a go at people if they didn't believe the same things as them. Thats what I've just seen, people having a go at him because he believed different things to them. Personally, I disagree with what he believes, but if he has that faith then good for him if he wants to follow it, we're all free people. I respect people who have a faith, because I myself have none. And the main thing is that they are trying to take people away from the wbts, and isn't that what we all want? Different people want different things. There was a thread a few days ago about not being happy with all the fluff on here because it put some people off because they still believed in Jehovah just not in what was happening with the organisation(I think Nickey started it, but correct me if I'm wrong). This sort of thing might have been just what they're looking for, an important first step to get them out of the wbts and able to start looking at things for themselves, and then they might progress onto here anyway. Different people need different things. And I thought it was out of order for people to have a go at somebody because they believed something they didn't like while at the same time attacking the wbts for shunning people who didn't follow their believe system.
What I don't like is bashing other religions---and the WTB&TS is most definitely guilty of that. But yet The Church of Jehovah is doing the same thing. I still believe in God, but struggling with the name he prefers to be called. How do we know its supposed to be Yahweh,Jehovah, or whatever variation of the name? Anyway, I am very hestitant to join any group that bashes. Even though the governing body has its faults, and the are shameful, they have also taught some good things...even though they attach guilt with the majority of their teachings.