Regarding Carlin. He makes an very good point concerning plans and prayer. If he is real and has an divine plan. What is he waiting for? He can't end, he is omnipotent. What does he have to prove? The bible says he is all powerfull, he says he is all powerfull. Who is questioning his sovereignty? It can only be those below him. So what is the problem? Lunacy, shear lunacy.
davegod
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Jehovah, the God of Justice, Executes the Wicked
by TMS inthe phrases still roll off my tongue, "a god of tender mercies", a god in whom there is no injustice", a god who "protects the little one.".
in spite of those worn out platitides, if i walked in to a court room and saw the name "jehovah god" in metallic letters on the door, i would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused.
i would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by god jehovah.. i cite the case of king david of israel.
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Jehovah, the God of Justice, Executes the Wicked
by TMS inthe phrases still roll off my tongue, "a god of tender mercies", a god in whom there is no injustice", a god who "protects the little one.".
in spite of those worn out platitides, if i walked in to a court room and saw the name "jehovah god" in metallic letters on the door, i would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused.
i would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by god jehovah.. i cite the case of king david of israel.
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davegod
The Ot says that God did everything to have people change but there came a point when he just had to act. I undestand how one can get angry with God.
I think(hope) that in the long scheme of things God will find a way to forgive everyone. We are all his creatures and all related to each other. Knowing the type of God that HE is, Almighty, I believe that there can even be hope for anyone in the distant future. In the meantme, God's justice must act to stop forces that harm the meek and helpless.
Who forgives god then? Should an almighty, all knowing not contain some infinite level of self control?
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Glowball Worming: Is the science settled?
by BurnTheShips init looks like the scientific "consensus" is not really there, is it?.
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davegod
Speaking of glowball's, here is a neat recipe.
Take a 20 oz bottle of mellow yellow, pour all of it out except about a quarter of the bottle. Put in around 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 3 capfulls of hydrogen peroxide. Put the lid on and shake it up.
You can pour it on most anything and it will be dayglow, nuclear waste yellow/green!
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The Ten Plagues of Egypt
by LtCmd.Lore inedited to remove my book of bs quote.
here are the ten plagues:.
1: water turned to blood.
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davegod
Analyzing fiction is an act of utter futility. Better things can be done with ones time.
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Cellphone ringtones
by MadTiger inwhat type of ringtone do you use?
do you go with the normal rings that are already on the phone, like i do?
or do you go with snippets of your favorite songs instead, like many people?
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davegod
Keep your eyes on the prize
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Best place in the world to be born?
by mtsgrad inlongevityhealthfamily/community valueshealthcarepoliitcal stabilitywealtheducationafter much thinking i have decided bhutan is the best place in the world to be born.
it is the only country in the world with a policy for the populations happiness.. in the uk depending on your city your average life expectancy can differ by eight years.
scary!.
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davegod
USA all the way!
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Isn't Jehovah a wonderful God?
by nvrgnbk inwhen i look around at all the people in the world, i'm comforted to know that jehovah will soon destroy them.. i'm talking about people that don't attend our encouraging christian meetings.
yes, people that don't zealously participate in the preaching of the good news.
'what good news?
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davegod
He's a piece of shit.
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davegod
Best biz on earth! Taxes can be a bitch, just set up the corp right. Appeal to the masses! Listen to a whole lot of democratic political speeches and mimic away. Do it right and 7 figures annualy will be yours. If you don't have the personality? Hire some one who does.
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When DID the Jews return?
by Doug Mason inthe wts says that the key date in the jews return from babylon is tishri 1 537 bce.. the wts uses that date to arrive at its incorrect date of 607 bce for the destruction of jerusalem.
in turn, its 607 bce date is used to provide the date of october 1914 ce for christs parousia and the setting up of gods kingdom government.
the wts claims to be the sole representative upon earth of gods kingdom.. the date of the jews return is thus crucial to the watchtower societys (wts) existence and authority.
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davegod
OK, I can't resist. Let's say 537 is correct. What are you going to do with this date? What will knowing this date accomplish? What possable meaning does this date have? If they are right and it's 538, what friggin differance does that make? 1914,1915,1913,1876,2148 who cares?
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When DID the Jews return?
by Doug Mason inthe wts says that the key date in the jews return from babylon is tishri 1 537 bce.. the wts uses that date to arrive at its incorrect date of 607 bce for the destruction of jerusalem.
in turn, its 607 bce date is used to provide the date of october 1914 ce for christs parousia and the setting up of gods kingdom government.
the wts claims to be the sole representative upon earth of gods kingdom.. the date of the jews return is thus crucial to the watchtower societys (wts) existence and authority.
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davegod
History is not iperfect and even the Bible does contain all of the facts that we moderns demand of such a record. Chronology is not an exact scienc ebut must rely on documents or an imperfect record so as to provide a framework in which the reader cam understand that record. Regarding the history of the Return there are some details that we simply do not know and one must make certain assumptions in order to utilize what data or facts are available. In this case we have two basic facts namely that the Decree was made in the first year of the reign of Cyrus which most if not all authoriies agree ran from Nisan 538 to Nisan 537 BCE. The other fact is that the Jews returned home by the seventh month but it is not stated in what year.
I have consulted much information concerning this event of the Return and all of these authorities make assumptions as does the WT writers so that is the nature of the beast however our approach using all of the available evidence 'proves' that 537 BCE was the year of the Return. In your thesis you develop a number of scenarios to show that the WT model is unprovable and you too use assumptions but you prouce no result.
I believe that what the WT society has written on this subject over many decades and encompasssing all facts and assumptions have well and truly proven their case. Carl Jonsson who is a much more thorough critic of WT chronology and the sacred date of 607 BCE has left 537 BCE more or less alone. If he felt for one moment that the WT was 'weak' in this specific matter then he would have exploited this grevious error to the full. At best he finds in favour of 538 BCE which differs from your 'probable' 536 or 535 BCE. You are the onlyperson that I am aware of who has spent so much research on this subject and I have been involve with chronology for nearly forty years.
I cannot add more to this matter than what has already been published by 'celebrated' WT scholars but I can vigourosly defend their position. In my opinion 537 BCE is provable and is the precise year for the Return which in turn leads to 607 BCE as the precise year for the Fall of Jerusalem beginning the Gentile Times ending in 1914 CE.
Chronology is imperfect as I have stated but one works with what facts are availabel, adhering to the integrity of God's Word rather than profane secular souces and Holy Spirit which is our Helper, all work together in constructing a chronology that produces faith and inspires prophesying.
There is little value gained by simply 'throwing stones' at something unless you offer something better or thruthful. You say you seek truth then you should produce a result, a precise year for that epochal event is now demanded of you. If you cannot produce the goods then perhaps humbly acknowledge the work of others because truth is found in a community not from an isolated one. Criticism for the sake of criticism is not wisdom but amounts to foolishness even though it appeals to our vain intellect. Wisdom is present with that faithful slave who traditionally established that 537 BCE is the date of the Return despite the darkness that pervades Christendom and her scholars.
scholar JW
This post just unproved 537. You should try reading what you post.