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  A Worldwide Rally

  by cornish in

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  a rally against bullying cults.. one thing i remember reading in steve hassans book combating cult mind control is how much cults hate publicity ie having their dirty deeds out in the open.. i was thinking to myself what do people usually do to highlight some concern or make a protest,here in the uk one popular method is to do a march demonstration and hand a petition or something to the prime minister at ten downing street,would it not be great if ex members of jehovahs witnesses and sympathisers and possibly including ex members of other cults could get together and have a large rally in the nations capital,a point of contention could be destructive cults having charitable status or something but including issues like blood shunning,manipulation etc culminating in downing street,other countries could have similar simaltanious rallies in their capitals.it would probrably grab the medias attention.. are there enough of us?.

  just a thought,mayby a little over the top!

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  One thing I remember reading in Steve Hassans book Combating Cult Mind Control is how much cults hate publicity ie having their dirty deeds out in the open.

  I may be wrong, but my impression is that these days, the WTS needs publicity, and it doesn't matter very much whether that's negative or positive publicity. The JWs aren't a mass religion. They will always attract only a small percentage of people -- people who would understand negative publicity as "persecution".

  So, IMHO, it's best to deliver targeted information to Witnesses and don't bother the majority of other people with things they couldn't care less about. The average non-Witness probably doesn't waste more than half a second of thinking about JWs per year, and it's likely something as "oh my, this guy is standing here every day with his silly magazines".

  I think that's fine.

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  CO says 35% inactive

  by target in

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  the co visiting a congregation in madison wisconsin told them that 35% are inactive.

  i wonder if this is the pattern with most other congregations.

  that was about what it was in the last congregation i was in.

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  I heard one S.O. tell his congregation that "we are experiencing exponential growth"! I kid you not.

  Hey, I mean, he could be right. A yearly increase of, say, 0.001 percent is exponential growth after all.

  Of course, these days, it looks more like exponential decay.

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  John Walker

  by mike047 in

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  the u.s. government is returning john walker to the states for trial.

  what do you consider an appropriate punishment for his mis-deeds?.

  i think, he should be[if found guilty]stipped of his citizenship and returned to somewhere in the mideast to spend the rest of his life,with no possibility to return to the u.s. for any reason.

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  fodeja

  I wonder how the wife and three children of the dead CIA agnet feel about Johnnie who took part in killing the CIA agent in the prison uprising.

  So that has been elevated to the level of "fact" by now?

  To me, what's most disturbing about this entire Afghanistan thing is that there is virtually NO comprehensive, reliable information available to the public. It basically looks and sounds like it's all coming from one single source. Even respectable newspapers are essentially rehashing the same soundbites anyone can get on TV. Anything else is quickly, and effectively discredited because "those others have an agenda to push" (and they're terrorist supporters for sure!). Oh, yeah, like the US government doesn't have an agenda to push, and the US media doesn't care if advertisers think their reporting is "unpatriotic".

  I don't really care much about this JWL case, but I see it as one prime example of successful manipulation: here we have an American public that has, so far, been spoon-fed with carefully screened information in tiny doses - and that's enough to have intelligent people scream for the death of someone.

  What do you KNOW about this guy? What do you KNOW about anything that happened in Afghanistan in the past months, for that matter?

  That's not to do with conspiracy theory, and please don't give me the brainless "liberal" labeling (which is just as intelligent as the "apostate" label). It's common sense to understand that unless you have other ways and means to check facts, your "reality" is formed by whoever chooses to tell you what "reality" is.

  In JWL's case, there's at least a chance of getting to know the whole story - that's what a public trial is about. The POWs, oh, "battlefield detainees" on Cuba? Don't know. Someone said they're terrorists, and that "someone" isn't a disinterested observer. For me, that wouldn't be enough to issue a goddamn parking ticket. For others, it's apparently enough for a public beheading.

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  InternetBumperStickers.com

  by SYN in

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  hi all, just thought i'd mention something that's been bugging me a bit, i've noticed that a few ppl on this board are using gifs from internetbumperstickers.com.. i myself have gotten some amazing little gifs from that site, they seriously kick the llama's ass!.

  there is only one thing: those nice guys at internetbumperstickers pay real money for the bandwidth they use, and when you guys link to their images in your sigs, that means that every unique ip that views this page (provided they are using an image-enabled browser) is going to download that image from their servers.

  you might think that these tiny 2k gifs are nothing, but believe me, i was an administrator for a couple of websites, and the bandwidth adds up, and pretty soon you're paying through your nose for other people free loading.. the solution is a simple one: merely copy the files to your computer, find a server where you can stick them that allows public http access to files you can upload to it, ftp them onto the server, and then update your sigs to point to the new image location.

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  An added bonus is the fact that www.jehovahs-witness.com will probably become the #1 referrer site in their logfile reports .

  Oh, and it stimulates the internet economy, too. NTT/Verio should thank us.

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  InternetBumperStickers.com

  by SYN in

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  hi all, just thought i'd mention something that's been bugging me a bit, i've noticed that a few ppl on this board are using gifs from internetbumperstickers.com.. i myself have gotten some amazing little gifs from that site, they seriously kick the llama's ass!.

  there is only one thing: those nice guys at internetbumperstickers pay real money for the bandwidth they use, and when you guys link to their images in your sigs, that means that every unique ip that views this page (provided they are using an image-enabled browser) is going to download that image from their servers.

  you might think that these tiny 2k gifs are nothing, but believe me, i was an administrator for a couple of websites, and the bandwidth adds up, and pretty soon you're paying through your nose for other people free loading.. the solution is a simple one: merely copy the files to your computer, find a server where you can stick them that allows public http access to files you can upload to it, ftp them onto the server, and then update your sigs to point to the new image location.

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  There is only one thing: those nice guys at InternetBumperStickers pay real money for the bandwidth they use, and when you guys link to their images in your sigs, that means that every unique IP that views this page ... is going to download that image from their servers. ... and pretty soon you're paying through your nose for other people free loading.

  Let me take this opportunity, SYN, to again promote my evil anti-Watchtower scheme: if you link to pictures, why don't you use those fine educational pictures (a.k.a., spiritual food) available from the FDS via www.watchtower.org?

  You know, the Watchtower is paying real money for their Internet connectivity as well:

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  Kingdom Ministry School for Congregational Elders

  by Kent in

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  kingdom ministry school for congregational elders.

  for the 2002 service year .

  hi folks!.

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  Wow, I pity those who had to attend. It's almost impossible not to yawn after only the first couple of sentences.

  Amazing how you get all this stuff, Kent.

  BWAHAHAH! The guy actually says "this is no time for drowsiness", and that it will take some effort to fight it...

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  Secret military tribunals and historical precedent

  by Seeker in

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  the subject of secret military tribunals has been raised here in recent months, and i've made no secret of my displeasure at such moves.

  it was pointed out to me that president lincoln also did this, something i was not aware of.

  however, i have recently read an article in the feb. 2002 issue of the atlantic monthly that discusses the world war ii precedent cited by bush for these tribunals.

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  They are prisoners of war, and there is plenty of case law on how war criminals are treated.

  I thought they are not, and that the US government explicitly considers them merely "detainees", not POWs? Or am I mixing something up here?

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  Today is my birthday

  by TR in

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  anyone want to give me cyber hugs and kisses?.

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  "yk is his name, false prophecy is his game"

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  CONGRATULATIONS!

  Have a good one, TR, and let me tell you: you may be sixty today, but your dyed hair makes you look a lot younger. Like, 55 or so.

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  After Dateline Airs, WTS Executives Will Need ...

  by hawkaw in

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  fodeja

  If this much tooted event ever does actually happen

  Definitely not before "peace and security" are declared.

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  It'll be a COLD day in hell...

  by JanH in

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  ...before we see this happen in the usa, i fear:.

  norway minister marries gay partner.

  oslo, norway (ap) - finance minister per-kristian foss has married his gay companion, becoming the first member of a norwegian government to enter a binding homosexual partnership.

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  fodeja

  Don't get me wrong I am not a flag waving patriot, but come on it is apparent that the US isn't the only country that doesn't allow homosexual marriages...

  I may be wrong, but I think Jan's point was that someone who is in a homosexual relationship has made it into a top government position. Without causing a lot of upset. The "marriage" is just the icing on the cake.

  While only a few EU countries have a direct equivalent of marriage for homosexual couples, such relationships are becoming more and more officially accepted for various financial/tax benefits that have traditionally only been granted to heterosexual couples (married or at least living together). Fortunately, the religious influence on politics is much weaker in most of Europe than in the USA, though it still exists.

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