Posts by tenyearsafter

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Michael the Archangel

by UnDisfellowshipped in

is jesus christ the same person as michael the archangel [chief angel], as the watchtower society teaches?

what does the bible say?

here are all of the scriptures that mention michael the archangel:.

Michael the Archangel

by UnDisfellowshipped in

is jesus christ the same person as michael the archangel [chief angel], as the watchtower society teaches?

what does the bible say?

here are all of the scriptures that mention michael the archangel:.

Long Distance Adultery and Other Issues

by buddhaisbetter in

allow me a moment to introduce myself: first of all, i am not a member of your faith as surely can be garnered from my choice of user name.

i joined this forum with the intention of getting some information on a situation i'm forced to contend with that concerns my son.

my questions are not designed to bash your beliefs, regardless of my personally held opinions and i hope that any discussion can be conducted without contention.

tenyearsafter

First of all, welcome to the board buddhaisbetter!

Though there are many active JW's on this board, there are more that are ex-JW's. This board affords everyone to share their experiences and offer their opinions and observations about life and the JW experience, so please don't feel you are offending anyone with your questions or comments.

Your story is not an unusual one...online relationships can be more complex and complicated than face to face relationships! Where I am skeptical of the JW lady's story is that she was given the go-ahead to maintain a text and e-mail relationship with your son. The position of JW's is very strong in maintaining the marriage relationship, so it is unthinkable that the elders would give her that option. My guess is that she was told to cut off the relationship or face expulsion from the congregation. The fact that this relationship continues in a less than open manner is indicative that the lady is not playing straight with your son, her husband or the congregation. I would also say that if she were caught in this relationship again, especially after being disciplined by the elders, she would be expelled from the congregation. She is not a straight shooter...

If your son is studying with JW's with the eye to being with this woman, he is setting himself up for disappointment. The congregation will not accept this type of manipulation on her part, and it will paint your son in an unfavorable light if he were to "step up" his association with the JW's. If he were to become a member and gets involved in what is considered "wrongdoing", he will be expelled and shunned by all members. From your description of him, that would be very damaging to his self confidence. He needs to study EVERYTHING about JW's, not just what they teach about themselves. Have him research sites such as this one, www.freeminds.org and www.jwfacts.com He needs to know ALL the facts before he makes a life altering decision such as joining JW's.

i wish you and your son the best in working through this complicated situation...

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new here

by seenitall in

jw
friends

new here, but have followed this site from the very start.

as my name states, i have seen it all.

former elder, bethelite, po, ms, 4th gen and still active as pub.

tenyearsafter

Welcome seenitall...hope to see more posts from you in the future.

I do find it interesting that the prayers were encouraged to be long and structured...smacks a bit of the pharisees praying in the public place where they were seen by all that passed by...sheesh!

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zombies at the door

by WuzLovesDubs in

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friends

i left to go out for my morning walk this morning and saw two men in ties with briefcases walking with an umbrella.

(it is south florida after all) and of course i knew who they were immediately.

i passed three more "groups" on the way out of the complex walking their baby carriages wearing their long dresses and practical shoes with their hair up in buns going maybe 1mph....and i couldnt leave fast enough.

tenyearsafter

Interesting...I have not had a visit at the door since 1995! Our territory must be part of where the need is greater (within the greater Los Angeles area...LOL)

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Tempur - pedic mattresses

by linp24 in

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friends

folks, do you own a tempur pedic mattress?

if you do, are you satisfied with it?

how bout a sleep number bed?.

tenyearsafter

I have the Tempurpedic and it has been quite good so far...only complaint I have is that it sleeps a bit hotter than traditional mattress. Other than that, it is very comfortable.

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Severe abdominal pain

by Heartbreaker in

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friends

how come pain the middle of the night is always more scary than during the daytime?

i was woke up from a hydrocodone sleep, with pain in my very upper abdomen and middle back.

it feels like i'm just pumped full of gas and tightness and pain.

tenyearsafter

I'm with the gallstone crowd...it sounds like classic gallstone symptoms. If the stones don't get lodged in the bile ducts, the symptoms can come and go. If they are lodged, you need to get medical attention. I would definitely consult a doctor and get an ultrasound to confirm. Good luck and hope you feel better!

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Most annoying quotes you are going to hear from JW's

by XPeterX in

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friends

something like: "would jesus do that/go there?

" i tell them: "would he own a luxurious bmw or mercendes?".

what are some quotes/expressions invented by jw's that really pissed you off?.

tenyearsafter

"the proper food in due season"

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Look at the fingers on your right hand...

by changeling in

jw
friends

look at the difference in height between your index and ring fingers, palm facing towards you:.

a) they are pretty much the same height.

b) the index finger is taller.

tenyearsafter

ring finger taller

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Lets calculate the number of partakers world-wide!

by 2014CountDown in

how many partakers were in your kingdom hall??.

even if your kingdom hall had no partakers, please say so.. at the end of this thread i'll tally up the result to give a rough idea of partakers world wide!.

i'll start this thread off by saying that i attended 4 kingdom halls and there was a total of 3 partakers.

tenyearsafter

Hi 2014,

This is an interesting concept, but I am afraid your methodology won't be too accurate. As Leolaia points out, there is a bias on random sampling. The big challenge here is that the bulk of partakers are primarily from the "mature" territories of the world such as the U.S., Canada and Europe. The "newer" areas such as Africa, South America and Asia have far fewer partakers per congregation, so your extrapolation would be skewed. I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I think Mad Sweeney is right...we just don't have enough data to work with. I do like the idea of a Nibble-N-Sip pool though...