i have a few which still either anger me, make me sad or just make me grateful that i am no longer one of them.
1 - "well, everyone is going to die anyway, so if it at armageddon then ce la vie" 2 - "the disater today at the world trade centre is sad, but exciting" 3 - (an elder) "when armageddon happens, i want to be at a window, watching it all".
sick, sick, sick!
My favorite was when I was working in FS in a very wealthy neighborhood with an elder and he pointed to one of the nicest homes and said, "after Armageddon, I've already picked that house for mine...which one do you want?" I think he was trying to be funny...but I think he actually believed it.
AE...you have a PM
the watchtower has sent a legal notice to the owners of the eds blog for posting copyrighted material without permission.
here is the link to the trancript.
the site owners response is also there.. .
Hi Purps...it looks like the Garrido site used the same website template as the EDS site.
TYA
in the local paper there are 2 different towns that are dealing with possible police misconduct.
one situation involves thousands of dollars worth of pot stolen from the police locker where the drugs were supposed to be safe.
now the feds and state are involved in finding out who was responsible for the theft.
Hi Ada,
All very good suggestions...some already in effect in CA and others probably not workable. I currently have to do 24 continuing education hours every 2 years to maintain state requirements. Most cops hired at our department hold Bachelor degrees, with several having Masters. To make a degree with a psychology minor as a requirement would not be practical as it is so difficult to get qualified applicants with present requirements. We currently have to interview and test 100 candidates to end up with one new hire. The current academy is 7 months long and field training is another 3 months. After that, the individual is on probation for 12-18 months, depending on the department, during which they can be terminated at will. I have been to numerous training on handling mentally ill subjects, abused children, elder abuse, etc. I can't speak for what other states do, but CA is pretty stringent on the hiring parameters and training it requires of departments when hiring officers.
Mentally ill subjects are a huge problem for law enforcement. How about our treating and helping these people rather than turning them out on the street for law enforcement to have to deal with? I can't tell you how difficult it is to get help for these people! No one wants to pay to have these people helped with treatment...it is much easier to let them be arrested or committed for a 72 hour evaluation than to provide long term treatment and assistance back into society. It is a travesty, and EVERYONE should be ashamed at how these folks are treated. Rather than clucking their tongues and criticizing the police, maybe they should be looking at the cause for much of this problem. Many homeless are mentally ill...they are released to the streets with no treatment, help or hope. It is disgusting, but it is invisible to the majority of people living comfortable "normal" lives. Sorry for the soapbox, but I am always amazed at how the biggest critics of the police have no answers...just complaints and anecdotal stories.
TYA
in the local paper there are 2 different towns that are dealing with possible police misconduct.
one situation involves thousands of dollars worth of pot stolen from the police locker where the drugs were supposed to be safe.
now the feds and state are involved in finding out who was responsible for the theft.
I agree with Deputy Dawg...takes one to know one. With that said, there are those in the profession that are bullies and unprofessional. The great majority of those I have worked with our honest, hardworking folks that want to do a good job. Unfortunately, things can happen quickly and the great majority of time the decisions are sound. It's those rare times that the wrong choice is made that the headlines blare and the Monday morning quarterbacks come out. Just as there are "bad" folks in every profession, cops are not different. They certainly can do something that no one else can, and that is to take away your freedom...that is why it is so painful when power is abused or decisions aren't sound. I also say, "walk a mile in their shoes"...it might be enlightening. Police work requires split second decisions...you rarely have the luxury of analyzing and consulting with others before a decision is made. That fact makes it different from most other professions.
What do those of you who are extremely critical of the police suggest to improve things without compromising public safety? Would you disarm police?...prohibit vehicle pursuits?...do away with going "hands on" with violators? It is not as simple as it seems when you think about it.
please let active jws comment here first.
i am especially inerested in their response as to whether the governing body is god's channel of truth, leading the members of the congregations, the sum of whom cumulatively make up jehovah's organization.
if so, why, and on what basis..
Hi angel eyes,
I am not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I did want to point out that your statement "they have never gone to war" is not exactly correct. Even through WWI, Bible Students (as JW's were known back then) were not forbidden from military service.
They were encouraged to "shoot over the heads of their ememy", but who knows how many actually did that when faced with the loss of their own lives in the heat of battle. They were not forbidden from military service until later in the 20th Century. I am not sure of the exact date that the position changed, but I would venture to say that they were already "God's channel on earth" by that time. Food for thought...
Kanye West is a tool...
i address this question to the governing body, to their internet monitors or to any apologist who might want to speak for them.. why do you want disloyal people in your "clean" organization?.
it should be evident by now that an untold number of people in the organization do not really want to be jehovah's witnesses any longer.
specifically, they don't want to attend meetings, or to donate money to the worldwide work, or spend real time going door to door.
Janseyhull,
Maybe you could expand on your comment...as bluecannary pointed out, why not be specific about your criticism? I am interested in knowing what you find to be faulty in metatron's observations?
If you are just posting to be insulting, I don't understand the reason...if this is a site full of "ranting insecure people" why do you look at it and post? Have you considered the implications of your participation on here? Would you share the fact with the Elders?
If you are sincerely looking to discuss things, welcome!
TYA
in honor of the new remastered cd's !
let us rock on some beatles tunes !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikieqikvmpo&feature=related.
I agree with leavingwt!
I love this song...very nostalgic and timeless...
the other day i was at a drive-thru when i saw a couple of young dubs eating inside by themselves with no chaperone.
they then left in separate vehicles.
it reminded me that when i was dating my jw wife it was her idea to take separate vehicles to avoid arousing suspicions.
Based on my experience and those of several others my age. the marriages occurred very early (I was 19 and she was 18) and usually lasted as long as both spouses were active JW's. Even if unhappy, the mindset is that you have no options. I have seen several long time JW marriages, including mine, break up after one spouse becomes inactive or leaves the Borg. I was married 24 years before I finally realized that I had an option to living unhappy. Once again, high control is an incredible barrier to action. I am not advocating divorce, but I definitely am against kids getting married because they are forced to do it or face being ostracized by the congregation.
i haven't been on here much, including during the recent election.
i am curious if anyone knows what the opinions, official as well as non-official or "gossip" *gasp*, on the election and obama.
i remember as a kid my mother would always complain so much around election time, just like xmas, because she hated it so much.
I always find it amusing that my mother, a fifty year JW and absolute believer, ALWAYS has an opinion about the latest political going-ons. She justifies it by saying it is just observations of the "Time of the End" being played out. She does seem quite enamored by Obama's speaking skills...
