http://www.thebroadroad.com/m/articles/view/bible-canon-and-the-new-world-translation.
.
not sure how to make this clickable but it is well worth a read and is nice and short..
I have had the question of the Bible Canon in my mind for years (even as a JW)...forget why they didn't cobble together their own set of inspired books so that they could be "unique", my question for years has been...
If you condemn Christendom, and Catholicism particulary, as being Babylon the Great (and thus from Satan), how can you accept and base your "true" teachings on something compiled by Satan?? I have never had someone who could explain that to me.
i remember a lot of witnesses working throughout the country for trim-line when i was younger.
i think it was started by a jw at the time.
i worked for the trim-line in indiana when i was younger.
Trimline, Snap On and don't forget the fire/water damage restoration franchises that went around in the late 80's and 90's.
my uncle was rushed to the hospital last tuesday with severe stomach pain.
(he was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago.
the doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery.
I think the point TheSheppard is that, regardless of the reason, the Elders have no right to dictate things in a family matter to those "outside" the "Truth". If other family members wanted him to leave, that would be a different matter...but unless, R&R is not posting the full story, I would say these Elders were WAY out of line.
my uncle was rushed to the hospital last tuesday with severe stomach pain.
(he was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago.
the doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery.
Hmmm...does that mean you have to leave a meeting before the prayer if you are DF'ed...ridiculous!
what is the wts going to do if a non df'ed individual is the primary care provided for say an elderly family member or a handicapped child or parent?
many of us are in the position that without our assisting these folks they would have no where to turn.
does not the bible admonish a responsiblity to these loved ones??
The JW mentality is unique...it is all about spinning things to one's advantage. I am sure some JW's would step up and help a DF'ed relative. The Elder's Manual leaves some "wiggle" room:
" . . . What is done may depend on factors such as the parent’s true needs, his attitude and the regard the head of the household has for the spiritual welfare of the household.”
When the shoe is on the other foot, the JW's would absolutely expect the DF'ed person to care and provide for their JW relative. I can speak from experience on this one. As I have mentioned in previous posts, my JW mother relies on me to take care of many of her needs, as well as visit her on a regular basis (as the Congregation has pretty much forgotten her), yet when I am not around she wastes no time bad-mouthing me and telling everyone who is near, my wife included, what a bad and evil person I am. It is all about them, and not about doing the "right thing".
I was on a flight from Atlanta to LA a number of months back and sat across the aisle from her. I was actually taken aback by how good she looked, as I was expecting her to have much more "wear and tear" based on all of the news stories of the past about her. She was pleasant and didn't seem to show any signs of substance abuse at the time. It is a very sad thing to hear of her passing...a truly talented singer. If substance abuse was a contibutor to her death, it just reinforces how insidious drug use can be...
indeed thats just what witnesses are.
everyone hates them.
is there any other group in "christendom "that are hated as much as these.?
Luap,
Welcome to the Board. Rather than just post what you have been told are the facts about JW's versus orthodox Christendom, I would suggest you study in depth the origin of those beliefs you criticize. After you have studied the facts, then you can make comments in a credible manner. This type of study may reinforce your belief in JW teachings, change your thinking to accept orthodox Christendom's belief or reject both teachings. The key to be taken seriously is that you have to be objective and accurate in your pronouncements.
TYA
you may be a jw ........if you spent last saturday traped in a car with at least 4 other people you may be a jw.. if you have sat through a sheparding call where you were told you are unworthy you may be a jw.. if you have alienated your worldly relatives with your preaching you may be a jw.. if you have ticked some one of buy knocking on their door on one of their religous holidays you may be a jw.. if you think the governing body is goods direct channel you may be a jw.. if you have no clue when this system is going to end you may be a jw.. .
.
ron.
if the only times you see your non-jw relatives is if you need something from them...
your favorite phrase is "new light"...
you won't say "bless you or gesundheit" when someone sneezes...
you become physiclly ill when some sings "happy Birthday" in a restaurant...
when you say holiday music is awful no matter how much you feel like humming the tune...
i remember back when the movie came out how it was condemned by wt.
cos, dos, elders, all ranted against the movie.
other than the profanity, travolta adjusting himself in his undies, some violence, sex, and drug stuff, it was not "bad".
The back seat in the car sex scene might have sent most dubs over the top, but I thought it was a great coming of age movie!
i remember reading an excerpt of a court case recently wherein a gb member was being questioned by a counselor in a court case.
one of the questions was on the topic of "unpardonable sins".
the gb member was asked by the legal counsel if there was a transgression that would disfellowship a member of the congregation whereupon they would not be allowed to be reinstated.
There are several interpretations of this, but what I always heard was that it applied to those of the anointed that had become apostate and thus sinned against the Holy Spirit by rejecting Jehovah (his Organization).
