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  I'm new here...

  by Demokan in

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  i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.

  i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?

  also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!

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  tenyearsafter

  Welcome!

  TTATT=The truth about the Truth.

  A good resource for TTATT is www.jwfacts.com There are many sources as well, but this is a good start.

  It sounds like you are already well on the road to understandng that. As pointed out above, being 15 and a minor under your parent's roof, you have certain obligations to them. I wouldn't necessarily be too vocal about your doubts...gentle as it goes. The key thing is, do not get baptized if you have even an iota of doubt!! You can still be shunned by individuals as a bad associate as an unbaptized publisher, but it usually won't be at the same level as if you were baptized and then DA'ed or were DF'ed. If you care about maintaining contact with your family and friends, take a very low profile approach. When you are in a position to be on your own, then you can fade and no one should be the wiser. Again, DO NOT get baptized...everything else can be dealt with.

  Good luck in your search...
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  Introduction to "Chip and Dale"

  by chipanddale in

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  tenyearsafter

  Welcome to the forum!

  When I was still in, I knew a captain for UAL (originally Pan Am) who was an elder in the Agoura/Thousand Oaks area of CA. I believe his name was Jim as well, but I can't recall his last name. It has been 20+ years since I saw him (I've been out since the mid-90's), but I remember him being a nice fellow. I can't imagine there were many UAL captains that were JW's. He has been retired for 20+ years, so I imagine he is in his 80's now. I believe he retired a year or two after the Pan Am merger...he flew 747's in the Pacific.
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  A judge bans a child being called Messiah

  by usualusername in

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  bbc news - us judge changes baby's name from messiah to martin.

  what right does this judge have to change a babies name?

  jerk.

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  tenyearsafter

  I agree that a judge shoudn't unilaterally make that type of judgment, but I believe another article pointed out that the father had opposed the name to begin with...and I thought the trial was some type of custody battle. The judge (a female) shouldn't have injected her opinion of the "name Messiah" in to the decision when ordering the change. Stick to the facts Your Honor!
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  Actress Karen Black passes

  by designs in

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  2. entertainment

  she had one of the most enviable careers in film.

  five easy pieces, easy rider, portnoy's complaint, the great gatsby, airport 75, the day of the locust, nashville, burnt offerings, and some of the best and creepiest terror and horror flicks for anyone who loves a good halloween scare film fest... in just over 50 years she appeared in over 90 films, she had one of the most recognizable faces on the big screne.. karen was 74.

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  Trilogy of Terror...one of the few things that gave me the willy's!!
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  The Mermaid Goes to the District Convention and this is what She Hears

  by Cadellin in

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  2. beliefs

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  tenyearsafter

  Data-Dog...now I am going to have nightmares for weeks to come!! LOL
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  Do you think that "Born Agains" will eventually abandon the "Hellfire" doctrine?

  by booker-t in

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  i have talked to christians for years on this subject and they all seem more confused then ever.

  some born agains have a hard time reconciling hellfire damnation with jehovah's loving personality.

  the two just can't mix.

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  tenyearsafter

  I think most Christians believe Hell is an eternal seperation from God...not that different than JW's who believe in eternal death for all but true believers. This evangelical viewpoint/belief is that being seperated from God is torment. There are all different beliefs within Evangelical Christianity, but only the more extreme, ie: Ray Comfort and crew, cling to the eternal torment in a burning Hell as a core teaching.
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  Intro - First time Post- Ventilation (it's a good read actually)

  by BLWashington in

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  2. friends

  currently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.

  i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .

  i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.

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  Welcome! Sounds like your life is pulling together despite the JW baggage hung on you by your "family".
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  If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?

  by UnConfused in

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  tenyearsafter

  There is no question that the night of Martin's death, there were a large number of bad decisions made and poor judgement exercised by both parties resulting in a tragic outcome.

  Regardless of personal opinion or belief, trials are not meant to be decided on public opinion but rather, evidence. The jury was not presented evidence pointing to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It would appear that they decided GZ not guilty because the prosecution didn't present a strong enough case.

  If public opinion were to drive the process, then we would not need trials...the media could decide for us and we could just release the defendant to the crowds to administer the punishment. It may "feel" good, but I doubt any of us would want to have our futures decided in that manner.
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  Bitter apostates

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses often go on about apostates being spiteful and bitter.

  when you get cut off, shunned, or threatened with shunning just for the audacity of thinking differently, it's not surprising that getting angry at the witnesses is the reaction - it's like a self fulfilling prophecy.. but also, i recently posted an email from a 'friend' on this board who told me that everyone he'd spoken to about me said i had changed, become like another person.

  it didn't occur to him that the day before i told my parents i'd quit the religion just 3 weeks ago, i met him for lunch, we had a good time and he didn't know anything was up.

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  tenyearsafter

  The Mormon video is very similar to Faith in Action...except better done! It is a very slick production.
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  Candace Conti v Watchtower Society | June 3, 2013 | Respondent's Brief - prepared by Rick Simons | A136641

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

  (90 pages).

  http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.

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  tenyearsafter

  Prime, are you an elder or MS?

  The reason that the WTS is being sued and losing is that they have a PATTERN of hiding child abusers...this is not a "one off" situation. You mention the RC Church, and they in fact have been sued for covering up child abuse...the RC Church's MO has been to settle with the abusers. I also believe the RC CHurch has publicly admitted to the problem. The WTS doesn't want to settle...they would rather fight to preserve their dubious reputation, and prefer to villify the victim instead of "man-ing" up and admit responsibility, and more importantly, institute change.

  Me thinks the Conti case will just be the tip of the iceberg...