Does the guy work at a grade school or day care? How does sexual harassment = pedophile? That's a pretty big conclusion to jump to.. Very JW. If other sisters have problems with him doing things at the hall they can tell the elders to keep an eye on him and he could be counseled. Are the sisters under age? Just because he's a creep doesn't mean he's a pedophile creep.
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Tonights Local Needs talk
by Iwonder17 inso our po gets up there tonight to give a local needs part.
he goes on and on about how we should not gossip if we think that someone is acting wrong in the cong.
then he goes on to say that if we know of anything we must go to the elders.. well, i know of someone who wrote a letter to the boe about a brother that was fired for sexual harrassment at his job and then just quit his current job because he was "accused" again of sexual harrassment.
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songs that help you cry....
by wings inno matter how much you want to avoid it...crying is necessary sometimes.
for me, i need help with it....too many distractions in my life.
i almost have to plan crying....so for me music aides in releasing emotion, helps me just be me for an interval of time.
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From innocent to...
by mind my own inhow many of you initally checked out this site for completely innocent reasons?
just stumbed across it and couldnt' stop reading, or to see what was being read with the intent of setting us or someone else in your life straight?
then b/c of what you read you could no longer buy into the whole jw fraud and left the org or are in the process of leaving?
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Google'd it after I was DF'd because I wanted to see if others had seen and experienced the same BS I had in my 30+ years as a JW. It was comforting to know I wasn't alone. It's been a year since I was DF'd and there is no reason to go back. This is a great place for support, especially because it's the only outlet many of us have.
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JW IQ's. Below average? (Includes SM anecdote.)
by Open mind inare dub bulbs just a little dimmer than the general population?
here's a little highlight from this week's local service meeting that prompts my question.. it's the annual, 20 minute, robotic hand-pumping session conducted by the secretary trying to get everyone all hyped/guilted up for this summer's district convention.
anyway, towards the end of the q&a, there's a paragraph that talks about offering a ride to the elderly/infirm ones in your congo.
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How does the auxilliary question make the audience less intelligent? Either the Secretary is just lazy and is filling time or maybe he got the part last minute and was again, trying to fill the time.. Got to make that part fill the alloted time! Most the JWs I've ever known were at least normal intelligence if not above... they just have no common sense to think that what they're being told to do is BS.
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For The Musicians Here (And Everyone Else!)
by Locutus of Borg ini come in late on many threads here because of the demands of my job and other responsibilities.
i did not get to participate in a couple of recent music vid threads.. so i guess this is my own selfish little bid for attention!!
lol!!
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Locutus: He's Dead.. Does that count? I think Roy along with Danny Gatton were two of the most underrated Tele manipulators ever. Too bad both experienced untimely ends.
On Van Morrison's Wave Length album, he had a song called Kingdom Hall. Going to the Hall must have had some impact on him, but it didn't sound like any Hall I've been to.. -
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For The Musicians Here (And Everyone Else!)
by Locutus of Borg ini come in late on many threads here because of the demands of my job and other responsibilities.
i did not get to participate in a couple of recent music vid threads.. so i guess this is my own selfish little bid for attention!!
lol!!
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To me, the best song on The Departed soundtrack was the the closing instrumental, "Sweet Dreams" by Roy Buchanan... Gave me the chills. Most of Scorsese's pics have great soundtracks.
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Your Cong = Which Songs or Band were "Demonic?" Did you toss albums?
by Witness 007 inlet me start = "kiss" stood for knights in satans service, "ac/dc" was anti-christ devils children.
"hotel california" was demonic who knew!
"yummy yummy yummy i've got love in my tummy.
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I don't recall throwing anything out personally. My mom would regularly raid my room and tossed my Van Halen and Run DMC tapes. If she couldn't understand the lyrics, they were nasty or demonic. I didn't really buy much music until I finally got a job and a car. Now, I have about 400 CDs and at least that many MP3s. I did toss all my tapes (and replaced with CDs).
I recall KISS, RUSH, Judas Priest, Metallica, Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, Tool and Depeche Mode being called demonic. There were all the stories of people trying to destroy their tapes/CDs and they wouldn't burn. (cuz the demons wouldn't let them!) :-)
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District Assemblies Not All They are Cracked Up to Be
by WTWizard inyou hear about them for so long.
the grand boasting session is supposed to be the biggie.
there is so much hype about the motels that are on the list, which will come out right around jan 1. you are supposed to call ahead, and usually people get busy signals and full motels.
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This was my first year not to attend. I did miss not seeing friends that I really only saw at conventions but since I'm DF'd I couldn't talk to them anyway. I live in a large metropolitan area so there was always plenty of female scenery and it was always nice! And since there was usually 4 or 5 conventions, you could see a lot if you could put up with the heat, the long drive, craptacular parking, cramped and uncomfortable seating, BYOLunch, screaming children and that annoying, reverberating voice or voices coming from the 2 speakers pointed at your section....well, just bring binoculars and tune that out. There was plenty of entertainment to be found... The morbidly obese that would waddle to the bathroom and you wondered how they could even walk ... People falling down the stairs... The family of 12 that would come in 2 hours late with the full size cooler and a pillow for everyone to sleep on (really what's the point?)... the people that would come in off the street and the attendants would surround them and watch them like they were terrorist apostates... and of course the occasional person that would stand up during one of the talks and start screaming and be escorted out..
I would bring a notepad sometimes to take notes, but always felt that I had heard that same info every year before. Then there were the BS, half-fiction 'experiences' from the stage. My sister had a couple of opportunities to relate some BS, and she even admitted that her story wasn't very compelling so the brother told her to embellish it a bit. I knew quite a few that were on the program and knowing the actual story as compared to what was said on stage made me question every single person that went up there. There were the families who were supposedly exemplary, but in reality were just like everyone else, they were just told to say they had a regular study and went out in service and maybe one of the teens said no to drugs or sex. One brother that was always giving experiences and seemed to be very exemplary was actually mentally deranged and was probably lying about half of what he said. He was on the platform every year from his teen years up until he went to Bethel.... he thought he should be in the writing department and refused to accept the grunt work. Needless to say he was asked to leave and when he came back he said the GB was racist and corrupt.. Now he might have been right about some of that..
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"A MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY"
by Bourne insince coming to the realization that the jw religion does not hold all the answers, let alone most, the above statement describes me to a "t".
i'm separated from my wife, an almost certain divorce is on the horizon, and because of now being "inactive", with the exception of my family, i have seemingly lost what friends i had.. i can't bring myself to fully embrace "worldly" thinking about many things, yet, as long as i am not an "active" member of the collective, i have no chance of making friends.
in an earlier post, someone asked me the pointed question, "what do you want?
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What happens during the divorce may push you off the fence. In my case it was one of the final factors in my decision to not care about JW rules any longer, which finally led to my DF. Is your 'soon to be ex' a JW? The elders get really shitty when it comes to divorce. They'll want to know all details and if someone has been unfaithful so they can DF, er, uh, 'help' them. I don't think they really care who they DF, it's whoever is easiest. Remember, you must be scripturally free to begin dating another JW, and the process of determining who is free sounds simple in the publications, but gets mucked up by the elders. I waited 1 year before they finally DF'd my ex(even though I had mounds of evidence to prove guilt), but by that time I had finally come to the full realization that I didn't want to be a JW any more. I was DF a year later, because I knew I could not let men ru(i)n my life any longer.
My situation was fairly similar to yours minus the great family part. So, in reality, yes, no family and no friends, but you have to do what you think is right, for yourself. I felt a huge weight was lifted once my DF was announced. I am a very guarded person so I don't really have any good new friends yet, but I'm being more social at my job and I know I just need to get out there. There is a new freedom you will feel and it is wonderful. It's still depressing at times, especially at this time of year. I have never celebrated holidays, but just seeing and know families are together (happy or sad) reminds me of what I don't have. But the holidays will soon pass and it still feels better than what I felt being in the org.
Don't put too much confidence in the org. They say there is all this 'help' but there really isn't.. It's every man for himself. Keep that in mind with your decision. I've been there before and you have my empathy.
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When did you STOP considering yourself a JW ? ? ? ?
by JH inany particular event sparked this change of heart ?.
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Officially, after I was DF'd. Had doubts for a long time. In my JC I decided this was the last time I was going to be mistreated by elders. It was my first and only JC but I have lots of experience with shitty elders from several different halls in different areas and have watched my family and friends receive bad treatment as well in one form or another. My family that is still JW thinks I'm sooo depressed because I'm not in the org, but it's quite the opposite. I think, besides coming to terms with the fact that I'll never see my family again, I'm happier than I've been in a long time. It is quite liberating to tell workmates and others that I am no longer a JW. I was raised JW and was always embarrassed to tell others something I really couldn't believe myself. Don't have to do that any more! :)