Posts by emptywords

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Did anyone here ever make the truth their own?

by slimboyfat in

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only encouraging comments please.

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slim.

emptywords

I pioneered and was looked up to as a very active and spiritual sister for mostly 30yrs (on and off), I also really cared about the b/s and tried to be as helpful as posible, always love Jehovah, so I guess I made the truth somewhat my own. But I never really was able to have a relationship with Jesus couldn't really grasp the ransom, I thought to much emphasis was placed on Jesus in the churchs and felt sorry for Jehovah, I know I sound like a nut, but thats how I felt.

I was out for years and came back only to be floored by the back bitting, gossiping and unloving treatment of some of the r/f...I found the elders turned into suspicious spys, eavsdropping, the constand stringent rules, and the scripture came to my head all the time. You will know my true deciples by the love they have amongst themselves.(Jhn 13:34,35) (not by the hours they do in FS, or the good talks they give, answering up ect). This is the identification of true christians and congregation, that Jesus said to look for. I didn't see it. I also saw the bias of the elders to certain ones, the unfairness and injustice, I hated the shunning and just basically I didn't feel like I belonged there.

The research was a shock at first and I began to see that the failed prophecies were a true sign that Jehovah could not be backing this org, the child sex crimes and the heartless way that the GB dealt with victims, the indignant way they treated b/s after the 75 sham, the vaccinations and organ, blood and all the changes that cost people their lives and the Malawii political card rule that bought death and countless grief to JW's and families, could go on and on. Get the picture, cant deal with that sort of truth and stay in the so called truth.

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Critical Times Hard to deal with??

by BluesBrother in

for many decades the watchtower has hammered home the message of 2 timothy 3.1 - 7 .

but know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.

2 for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of god, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

emptywords

The scripture is discribing the personalities of the people....

Whenever there is a breakdown in family their is a breakdown in society... and that is why it is so critical...

And of course with technology in the hands of extremists creates a very very shaky world.

There was never the ability to blow to world up, only takes one extemists to cause world wide havok.

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Can't keep up with pace !!

by aligot ripounsous in

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i take a chance and start my first thread :.

as it has been posted quite a few times lately, there has been a noticeable increase in the posting population on this board (i've added my bit) in the latest few months.

the consequence is that it takes an awfull time to read these posts -all the more so when one is a non native english writer- and one may feel that any posting we would like to do will be diluted in the whole lot, and/or come too late.

emptywords

Iv'e been on holidays past three weeks, not going anywhere much, but I work at home so have time to get on the puter, also not going out in the field service and missing meetings have given me even more time.

But hey appreciate all the great posts on here.

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Where was Adam?

by kifoy in

adam was somewhere else.

so adam was *with* her?

where was adam?

emptywords

The serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly and eat dust.
I'm rather curious how a snake got around before the whole "fruit incident" and I'm wondering when they got the "eating dust" reprieve. Interesting question from w/t June 15th/2007 Questions from readers....(havent got a scanner so..) Did the serpent that spoke to Eve have legs? As recorded in Gen 3:14, Jehovah God addressed the serpent that had decieved Eve in the garden of Eden. God said: Because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of all thedomestic animalsand out of all the wild beasts of the field. Upon your belly you will go and dust is what you will eat all the days of your life." The Bible does not specifically state that the animal used in tempting Eve had previously had legs but lost them. While the wording of Gen 3:14 might lead osme to think so, we need not necessarily conclude that prior to this curse, serpents had legs. Why not? Principally because the real object of Jehovah's judgement was Satan - the invisible spirit who had misused that lowly animal. The Bible describes Satan as "the father of the lie" and "the original serpent." Both of these expressions apparently point back to Santan's using a visible animal, a sepeent, as his mouthpiece to induce Eve to disobey God's command. - John 8:44; Rev 20:2. God created serpents, and Adam had apparently given serpents their name before Satan's deceptive act. The unreasoning serpent that spoke to Eve was not to blame. It would have been unaware that Satan was manipulating it, and it could not understand the judgment that God rendered against the disobedient parties. Why, then, did God speak of the serpent's physical abasement? The behaviour of a serpent in its natural environment, crawling on its belly and flicking its tongue as if to lick up dust, fittingly symbolized Satan's debased condition. Having previously enjoyed a lofty position as one of God's angels, he was consigned to the lowly condition referred to in the Bible as Tartarus. - 2Pet 2:4. Further, as a literal serpent might wound a man's heel, Satan in his debased state would 'bruise the heel' of God's "seed." (Gen 3:15) The primary part of that seed proved to be Jesus Christ, who temorarily suffered at the hands of Satan's agents. But the symbolic serpent's head will, in time, be permanently crushed by Christ and his resurrected anointed Christian companions. (Romans 16:20) Thus, God's directing his curse toward the visible serpent aptly pictured the debasement and ultimate destruction of the invisible "original serpent," Satan the Devil. After all that complicated answer...it is believed scientifically that snakes at one time did have legs.....

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ANTI-JW PODCAST Who is this guy?

by Terry in

http://jehovah-has-become-king.com/podcasts/06-26-2007/hifias1.htm.

what is weird about this podcast is that the fellow taking phone calls and answering questions seems to be a jw.

yet, he comes out and says the fds invented their "artfully contrived false story" about themselves.. .

emptywords

He basically feels the organization veered drastically off course

Quite a few witnesses believe that....like Isreal of old, the kings sitting on throne representing Jehovah did terrible things, they were finally abandoned. I dont' find anything so wrong with what he says....that's his view, they believe that Jehovah allows situations to occur for awhile before he steps in does something about, probably waiting for the org to be cleaned out.(from the top)

I guess it's their way of keeping their faith or relationship with Jehovah after finding out all the hypocricy of the the org. Being disfellowshiped for speaking out against the FDS I thought would be admirable.

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JW Private Investigator Inc

by sparrow in

there has been a few posts regarding happy marriages and the 2 witness rule which reminded me of an experience you might find funny.

i'd like to know if anyone else has done anything like this.... there was a married couple with 3 kids in our cong.

he was an ms but a nasty piece of work.

emptywords

Good work....did you give the evidence in her defence???? what happened?

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Was Jesus a Buddist?

by Illyrian in

i started investigating this issue a few months back after seeing a documentary that intrigued me.

some of you may disagree with my findings and that is ok, but hopefully we can have a constructive discussion and hear both sides of the arguments.

i personally was deeply impressed, to say the least, by the apparent cogency and deep correlations of evidentiary materials that survived to this day, which supports this thesis.. there is so much more that can be or should be said here but i will try to keep this text as short as possible so as to keep people interested enough to read it.. buddhism appeared some 500 years before jesus arrival.

emptywords

No

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I'm a bit bitter

by ThomasCovenant in

hi.

emptywords

SOLO MEOW

I am very difficult

difficult to be near

It is so I need alone /\ /\

And ever shall be so |\ /\

O )))))))

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Anyone been to this JW site?

by Tatiana in

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=330&pid=3878&mode=threaded&start=0#entry3878.

i may be late, and it may have been posted before, but i just came across this site that seems to have many jws posting and it's an eye opener for sure.

i read many posts, and some posters are just a step away from being here.

emptywords

Yes has some very interesting comments and veiws on this site....many which I do agree with. Its good to see that so many are enquiring and thinking for themselves weighing up the evidence but still not allowing the scandal to effect their relationship with God. Good on them.

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Because they are FAITHFUL!!! Because they are DISCREET!!!

by OnTheWayOut in

a coworker and friend whose family are jw went to the district convention with his jw wife and kids.. he said that about the only thing he got out of friday's session was this hilarious statement in the title.. here's the story-.

the speaker says, .

"why should we trust the faithful and discreet slave?.

emptywords

FAITHFUL ------- UN and NGO and faithful their lie of 607

Discrete -----------In trying to hide all the sex abuse cases, shunning and publicly reproving sheep for erring, kangaroo JC and indiscrete questioning of people's personal sexual experiences. Discrete in running down the clergy for protecting phedophiles (hypocritical).