...that if you had never been a jw you could have been in a totally different, hopefully better, place than where you are now?
both when it comes to proffession and family etc.... sometimes i feel that i never explored any hobbies coz preaching was my hobby.
i know it's not too late for babies or new hobbies but still sometimes that makes me sad.. love.
lately quite a lot my mum's wisdom has been coming to mind. She often used to say "be grateful for small mercies". And this is what I find myself doing whenever my mind wants to dwell on bitterness. Another useful ploy is to remember how my life was in the troof and that thought is enough to put a smile on my face
edit: although I have to admit I did experience quite a lot of happiness in the troof too
the november 1st public wt has an article on "do you need to learn hebrew and greek?
" funny is it not that they feel we do not need too.
anywho on page 21 of said wt.
I guess they don't want JWs developing more grey cells than they can cope with and they most definitely don't want discussions on the meaning of Greek words.
background and current in order.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/7938024.stm .
former teacher turned playground designer has been jailed for attempting to abduct a five-year-old girl.. robert bill, 54, of st asaph, denbighshire, was jailed for a total of six years at caernarfon crown court.. north wales police said after the case that bill would be closely watched when he is eventually released from prison.
thanks for sharing this Nelly.
well, today is another interesting day.
as some of you all know...i have been trying to make my exit out of the cult but my wife has been giving me some probs along the way.
today as usual i dont go to the meeting, i go on with my day as normal, wash clothes, cook breakfast, and so on.
yup I'm seeing mainsteaming here too. I think they could learn a lot from the Unitarians who share ideas and thoughts from poetry in their serrmons.
i am glad we went to the meeting this morning.
it was about how jehovah's witnesses have always taught the paradise earth for most of obedient mankind.
it mentioned how early christian leaders such as origen and augustine introduced neo-platonic thought into early christianity and allowed ideas about an immortal soul to crowd out what the bible says about the earth.
I didn't go to the meeting today and haven't studied the Watchtower. But I think I'll go have a look
before you answer that question, ponder it for a bit.. farkel.
hating what?
'waiting for the real life'.
they exploit the biblical text to mean in essence that jw's 'put off' normal human life until the new world.. i never thought of the damage that does until i began to review my life history.
i have discovered that i am 35 years behind.
imo one of the most destructive core JW ideas is the indiscriminate use of "wait on Jehovah".
JWs are actively discouraged from using their gift of anxieity to explore and discover different ways of dealing with problems. The frame of mind that accompanies waiting on Jehovah is marvellously calming but also numbing and dumbing
why do elders, in judicial committee meetings when dealing with immorality, have to ask so many personal questions, i.e.
how many times, was oral sex involved, anal sex, how many times, etc.
is it really necessary or are the elders just getting off asking about someone else's sex life?
I think the questions help elders be objective and clinical as in a psychoanalytical setting but JW elders have to rely on holy spirit to give them the expertise.
But I think the main reason for drawing out the procedure is to distance themselves from the catholic church's method of granting absolution which they despise.
my sis, kelly, killed herself 12 years ago today.
feels like yesterday.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&grid=5369813.
I'm so sorry you lost your sister tatiana
home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction.. source: cbc newsposted: 10/16/09 12:38pmfiled under: canadaa vancouver-area father has been found guilty of negligence causing bodily harm after botching a home-circumcision attempt on his four-year-old son as part of a spiritual quest to make things right with god.. the bizarre case centred on a battle over the religious freedoms of the former jehovah's witness, who was trying to follow a literal interpretation of the bible after a series of misfortunes hit his family.. during the trial, the b.c.
supreme court heard that after a bad motorcycle accident in 2002 left both the man and his wife with brain injuries, he began the religious quest that eventually led him to believe that both he and son needed to be circumcised to celebrate passover.. the man, identified only as d.j.w.
to protect the identity of his son, began researching home circumcision on the internet and in the bible, and by listening to a radio show.. his first attempt to circumcise himself ended up with his foreskin turning black and only part of it cut off.
very bizarre oldhippie
http://www.cirp.org/library/legal/brigman/
an interesting article that raises thought provoking questions about religious freedom and the law through an examination of how courts have responded to the practice of circumcision. The article concludes with the following and my understanding is that it indicates a way for taking civil action by children against their parents if they want to in future.
| For this reason, the civil law presently offers more fruitful avenues of approach. Because there are "no medical indications for routine circumcision," 77 the doctrine of informed consent requires that parents be told that such surgery is not required, that is is painful and that there are significant rates of surgical complications. Failure to give a complete explanation warrants a suit by parents, by the child or by a next friend acting on the child's behalf. Authorizing surgery on an infant after such a warning conceivably opens the door to a subsequent suit by the child against his parents. While state courts have been reluctant to allow suits by children against their parents, there is a growing trend to allow recovery where there is clear adverse interest. 78 Suits for damages against surgeons, hospitals, and conceivably parents, are possible because
The limitation posed by suits for negligence in this area is the same as that in the criminal law: negligence, like crime, is grounded in societally determined assumptions and expectations. Additionally, in the case of civil suits for circumcision, especially those cases without adverse medical complications, it will be difficult to establish damages other than pain and suffering. As a result, suits for damages are not likely to be numerous or very fruitful. The most promising approach would seem to be a civil rights class action against hospitals designed to prevent routine neonatal circumcision, that is, in cases where circumcision is not medically warranted. A class action suit would focus on the individuals most culpable since competent surgeons are aware that routine neonatal circumcision is not good medical practice. It would also have the advantage of avoiding the constitutional issues of parental rights, as well as religious issues, since the Orthodox Jewish circumcision ceremony is not normally performed in medical centers by medical personnel. |
