ok so let's play what if.
what if we are wrong in saying that the wts and jws are not handling sexual abuse cases properly?.
people won't believe us.
Then you take all this awareness and information that you have NOW, and beat yourself up because you did not know it THEN. It is totally unfair and unreasonable to take what you know now and use it to beat yourself up for what you didn’t know then.
So that having been said then this is surely true as well
We may have lost a lot but I think there is something truly noble in being able to accept that you were lied to
ok so let's play what if.
what if we are wrong in saying that the wts and jws are not handling sexual abuse cases properly?.
people won't believe us.
I see your point Lady Lee ... the pychological factors in admitting ones whole life was altered by ones belief system is difficult
to confront ; most of us naturally do not want to admitt to have been so mistaken !
Like has been said before "they talk about proud apostates but who is very proud about admitting that
your belief system and whole way of looking at life was wrong ?
So it boils down to pride and your own self-worth versus true facts
P.S. "what if's" can drive a person crazy with regret
does anybody know the jw reasoning why using mind-altering depression and schizophrenia medication are okay but marijuana is not?
okay i could see saying not to use marijuana because it is currently illegal in the us but what if it were legal?
there are lots of health benefits for marijuana.
To allow marijuana is practically admitting that tobacco is also not a religious issue.
It would create problems for their stand on tobacco for sure .....agreed with above statement
Also the simple fact that a stand has been taken on recreational drugs peroid .. change would be too drastic to accept I think
Paxil, Prozac, and Zoloft are all dangerous because they contain fluoride (ruining your pineal gland-
)
yes read about their effects for yourself
it has helped my fibromyalgia, after so many years of side effects and having my stomach destroyed by NSAIDS
thanks for sharing this could help others avoid long term usuage
i have started a new religion and this is your personal invitation to join it.
i got the idea from romans 2:14-15:.
"for whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.
Conscience is God given.
What would we be worshipping in this church of yours? Ah, of course: ourselves
Religion is man made.
I believe that just as light must have a source so too must conscience.
... how truly great this place is.. i have not been on many forums, but i think this one is unique and strong in a very important way.
it is of course a support group for those exiting the wts, or trying to deal with remaining within it, first and foremost.
but the awesome thing about this place is how it welcomes everyone.
Also, can one rightly observe that Jesus was hugely tolerant and benevolent toward all but religious leaders and those infested with a self-righteous religious spirit? ~~~~Fernando
Hypocrisy and telling other how they must live by force or threat seems to be the biggest issue Jesus had.
Hypocrisy is professing to believe one thing while in fact believing another. Most other sins will find hypocrisy at the root.
Greed can be dealt with by finding ways to satisfy it that don't harm others, or (if that can't be done) putting the offender away. Sloth, lust, gluttony,
and envy harm the sinner more than they do the rest of the world, and they're self-limiting.
People choose hypocrisy for many reasons: social acceptance, simple confusion, lack of conviction, lack of self-control .
But it's the one sin that seems most conquerable,
and therefore most horrible when we don't.
I think explaining to others our convictions for their consideration and reason is the way to go. Not even to say or believe that you have all the
answers but rather "here is what I have found helpful and calming to my spirit.".. maybe there is something here for you too, you're welcome to choose it or use it.
Jesus used the power of reason and common sense in dealing with others IMHO
"You can lead a horse to the lake but you can't make him water " .. nor why would you want too ? ...force is not pleasurable for the giver or receiver
Gain approval & acceptance by consideration for others and not just by what you say you believe
for these may be mere stirrings of a self-righteous force
things things of note that Jesus spoke of....
1. Hypocrisy
To be a hypocrite is to give others the impression that we are holier than we actually are. It is the same as being false, or telling a lie. Jesus pronounced a curse on hypocrites seven times in Mt. 23:13-29
2. Spiritual Pride
Spiritual pride is the most common sin to be found among those who pursue after holiness. We all know the parable of the self-righteous Pharisee who despised others even in his prayer (Lk. 18:9-14
3. Indifference To Human Need
God dwelling in their hearts (1Jn. 3:17) . Jesus spoke out strongly on such matters because He hated the attitude that many religious people had who were concerned only with religious activities but not with helping their needy brothers.
there must be a reason jws stay or people join..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9-aD7NdHQ
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave! "
http://youtu.be/dht3cedgg6e.
watch the right hand side of the screen.. .
i am trying to imbed it but can't make it work.
I think she may have been refused baptism and been told to wait and said "To hell with that " I think she got her full water immersion !
I know a guy who was refused so at the large assembly he put on his trunks and got in line ! He was stopped however..
she by-past all that and went straight into the pool
finally - i get it.
oh my gosh.. .
why did the chicken cross the road?.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
i love music - of many different genres and from different times.. .
i love to play guitar, not to any great standard and purely for my own pleasure, and there are many pieces that really move me.
'don't think twice' by bob dylan from my early teens is one that has stayed with me for 40 years.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48gIt84AZc&feature=share
Drop a word of cheer and kindness:
Just a flash and it is gone;
But there’s half-a-hundred ripples circling on
and on and on,
Bearing hope and joy and comfort on each splashing, dashing wave
Till you wouldn’t believe the volume of the one kind word you gave
peace, and love to you.
we are all in this together,to some, we're birds of a featherhowever, no matter what they say,we'll continue to watch, fight, and pray.
sylvia.
@betterdaze.... wonderful
The numbers in nature were there always... what else has man yet to accept and discover ?
hidden unseen things ,that display wisdom, intent and purpose
