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  My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  hi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.

  i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.

  i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.

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  caliber

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  There is comfort in knowing others understand even if a small group are stuck on idea and therefore

  are unable to entertain any other ways of thinking
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  Your take on this motto please

  by caliber in

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  your need to prove someone wrong is not a battle between you and the person you are trying to prove wrong.

  it is a battle within yourself.".

  ~jen reynolds.

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  caliber

  thanks Bluesbrother ... your statements make sense to me

  where I fall into the trap of "needing to convince "is when my motives for saying or doing something

  are called into question. Still it is nearly never worth the battle created because then the other person's

  charactor or ablility to concern peoples actions are called into question.. they in turn feel insulted or belittled or judged

  tiki ..so true we should not likewise attribute wrong motives to others.. but in the heat of the moment this is so easy to do

  ( sorry for the dark black, I tried to highlight your name and couldn't cancel the rest )

  Negative emotions appear mainly to result from negative beliefs and conditioning deep in the sub-conscious... the driving force in our actions & decision making
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  Your take on this motto please

  by caliber in

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  your need to prove someone wrong is not a battle between you and the person you are trying to prove wrong.

  it is a battle within yourself.".

  ~jen reynolds.

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  caliber

  Your need to prove someone wrong is not a battle between you and the person you are trying to prove wrong. It is a battle within yourself."

  ~Jen Reynolds

  The very nature of a debate or chat line is to discuss, to give your thoughts and views

  The word "need" above seems to convey desperation

  Are there issues so important that it requires a battle-like stance ?

  What is the fear if others see things differently ?

  What are some reasons for a "go to the wall stance ?"

  A need to vent supressed emotions, to save or protect others from harm

  or doubt or even guilt about past stands or lifestyles lived ?
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  Platonic "Lunch"

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  age-old question.

  complicated x1,000 if one or both of the persons is married/in a serious relationship.. i am skeptical.

  very skeptical.

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  caliber

  Several years ago on a thread I said yes platonic relationship(for those in a relationship already) are possible if there is trust between you and your partner... trouble is a person can deceive even their own heart over time.
  The question to ask yourself ..what is the subject of conservsation with this platonic friend ?
  Once you start to share emotional thoughts that you know should best be discussed with your mate you have crossed the line

  when there is more time spent and deeper enjoyment with your friend than your partner

  Imo someone always gets hurt in the long run.
  
  Perhaps it's human nature, we are attracted to the opposite sex, that attraction is what makes us notice someone in the first place, before we even talk and find out what we may have in common. We don't decide to become friends with the ugly or creepy person, we are programed to respond to beauty.~~ Dragonfly76

  You can walk across thin ice without checking it's thickness .....you may even make it all the way across the river
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  Is It Wrong to Change Your Religion?

  by gcs7000 in

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  no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.

  (from the article, is it wrong to change your religion?

  july 2009 awake!, page 28) .

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  caliber

  great scripture & reasoning thanks !

  However this "justification" is given..... Jw's when asked by someone "I have taken your literature

  now why won't you take mine ?" JW's are told to remind themselves "We cannot exchange the truth for a lie"

  .....just as lieing is justified because the one asking has no "assumed right" to know the real truth that could cause harm to the liar

  Having "the truth " triumps any would be rights of others

  Strange also how you don't just know certain truths... but you are "in the truth " surrounded and protected from all

  the evil reasoning of those who are merely "in the world "
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  i think i found a church

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.

  it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!

  they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).

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  caliber

  I agree that to find a church that appeals to you and your nature is refreshing

  but what of scriptures that indicate certain conditions placed upon us as individuals ?

  For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, Tim 4;
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  ‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. Rev 315-16

  Treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 2Tim3: 4
  Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near Rev 1:3

  The spirit of the law still requires that the letter of the law be understood to give some sort of framework to work with ..does it not ?

  In the business world they have goals and objectives for which to shoot for.... to aim for

  Jesus was quite critical of the Pharisees’ hypocrisy, and He expressed His disapproval forcibly on several occasions (e.g., Matthew 23). However, Jesus’ criticisms were always truthful and, ultimately, loving.
  
  Most people misunderstand what a “hypocrite” is. Most people think a hypocrite is someone who preaches one thing and then does another. That is not a hypocrite; that is called a SINNER, which is what we all are.We are not judging or condemning anyone to remind them of God's Law, anymore than it would be wrong to remind someone that it's against the law to steal people's hubcaps
  
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  i think i found a church

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.

  it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!

  they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).

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  caliber

  Are Priests mediators.... are they necessary today ?

  Some interesting thoughts about what the preisthood is and means to Catholic's

  "Yet as we know in the Old Testament there were two kinds of mediators between God and the people. There were mediators from God to communicate His mind and His will to the people. These mediators were called prophets. They were from God to the people. We might call this downward mediation: from heaven to earth. There were also mediators from the people to God to offer Him the people's adoration, invoke His aid, and beg His mercy for the people's sins

  Permanent deacons are being ordained in quantity, partly to supplement the dwindling ranks of the priesthood. But a deacon is not a priest. All of these and some other phenomena make the question we are asking ourselves crucially important. If the future of the Catholic Church in countries like the United States is to be assured, we need to understand better who a priest is, what his dignity is "

  http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/priesthd/priest.htm
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  "Which do you feel hurts more & why? Rejection or Betrayal from the one you love."

  by caliber in

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  here are a few thoughts from online discussion to start things off..... at least rejection you know outright.

  betrayal is always found out after the fact and always at a bad time.

  its betrayal and that takes more time to heal because i didn't see it coming.. .

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  caliber

  'lost '.. your speaking of a greater love we can trust reminds me of an old Alan Jackson video

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpZJD6deEGc

  love, trust and security is what we all wish for

  Rejection just means that one out of millions of people does not agree with you or dislikes you.

  Love is still the biggest thing in the world that makes it go round and around..it has wings that always will fly

  
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  "Which do you feel hurts more & why? Rejection or Betrayal from the one you love."

  by caliber in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here are a few thoughts from online discussion to start things off..... at least rejection you know outright.

  betrayal is always found out after the fact and always at a bad time.

  its betrayal and that takes more time to heal because i didn't see it coming.. .

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  caliber

  LoisLane looking for Superman

  big questions are best answered by brainstorming to reach resolution in one's mind...

  Thwarted love can be the greatest of all hurts, especially when we’re blind to the depths of our own contrariness.
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  "Which do you feel hurts more & why? Rejection or Betrayal from the one you love."

  by caliber in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here are a few thoughts from online discussion to start things off..... at least rejection you know outright.

  betrayal is always found out after the fact and always at a bad time.

  its betrayal and that takes more time to heal because i didn't see it coming.. .

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  caliber

  BETRAYAL. for me is worse. ~~~"lost"

  To love and trust someone 100% as being your gaurdian, protector, soul mate, best friend, marriage partner

  in any case it is the destruction of love and trust that hurts right 'lost " ?

  So rejection may be the more honorable approach ... but a person who betrays may love still but fell into a unforeseen or unplanned event... I would suppose