Posts by sparrow

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I'm starting to really get into the New Testament. This is great!

by MichaelM in

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stuff i never really touched much when i was a studying with the witnesses.

i'm in awe.. amazed.. at the things jesus is saying/doing.. some of it is even putting me in tears.

one chapter that i really love so far is i'm in luke and i'm reading about the woman who came into the pharisee's home and started kissing jesus' feet and jesus told the story of the two people that owed money.

sparrow

How long did it take you guys to not hate the bible/religion/meetings/etc to start reading the bible? I haven't reached the subject within my own reasoning of - "ok - I don't believe the WBTS anymore - what do I believe" At the moment I am happy where I am but I know I am going to deal with this at some point...

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What are you doing for Fourth of July?

by PEC in

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here i go again, i am going to keep doing these until, i get at least a hundred replies to one.. middle of the week, no vacation, staying home.

anyone want to come over for a bbq?

i am in san diego, ca 92126. pm me if you are interested.

sparrow

I have to work sorry - means nothing in Oz. Otherwise I'd be up for a few beer bongs...

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Did You Take Your "Ministry" Seriously?

by minimus in

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since all jehovah's witnesses are "ministers" and are to act like "watchmen" so as to not be bloodguilty before jehovah god, would you say that you, personally were a fine zealous preacher?

did you make sure that you accurately kept your house-to-house records up to date?

did you make sure you were back in a timely fashion once you placed literature?

sparrow

150 hours??? Geez I'm glad I never became a pioneer...

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What do you think?

by jaguarbass in

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my wife of 35 years and i were talking last night.

i was raised a witness.

she became a witness on her own volition at about 13 years old.

sparrow

I agree with Hortensia - some expert councelling may help. I had some myself and know of others and all have agreed it helped. I don't know what government/community funded help is available in the US but it would be worth following it up. (I paid through the nose for a private Physcologist and although he helped me I was never comfortable he was driving a porshe based on my misery )

Anyway, you don't want to waste the next years overcome by this otherwise the society will take your WHOLE life. Drugs (prescription of course) are sometime necessary but taking a painkiller doesn't heal the wound.

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Did You Take Your "Ministry" Seriously?

by minimus in

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since all jehovah's witnesses are "ministers" and are to act like "watchmen" so as to not be bloodguilty before jehovah god, would you say that you, personally were a fine zealous preacher?

did you make sure that you accurately kept your house-to-house records up to date?

did you make sure you were back in a timely fashion once you placed literature?

sparrow

I think I pulled the bible out maybe twice in 15 years of bible bashing. Hide the watchtower and present the awake was my gig. Short presentation is a good presentation I thought.

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Ever Got the blame?? (sorry if post is too long)

by sparrow in

i have been df'd for around 4 years and have not got my back up about the org until this year.

only this last year have i been looking around for answers and started realising there is a foundation for my reasons of not going back.

at first i was happy that it wasn't because i was making excuses for not going back but bad things were happening outside of the people i know across the org.. what pissed me off the most (and the reason i found this site) is because i got the blame for my brother in-law having sex in my house with someone other than his wife (my sister) because i am not witness and thus have low standards.. i'll try to keep this short: i have 2 sisters, one brother and 2 parents (fancy that) both remarried however.

sparrow

You are all correct. I am the easiest scape goat and had a feeling from the start it would turn out like this. Looks like your not unique unique1 :) I can't even defend myself within the ranks because I'm not in the ranks.

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WELCOME MARIUSUK!!

by Mariusuk. in

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just realised after nigh on 100 posts i don't have a welcome thread, i know it is arrogant to do your own but screw it i want a welcome

sparrow

not that I am any position to welcome you but what the hey...

welcome Mariusuk

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Ever Got the blame?? (sorry if post is too long)

by sparrow in

i have been df'd for around 4 years and have not got my back up about the org until this year.

only this last year have i been looking around for answers and started realising there is a foundation for my reasons of not going back.

at first i was happy that it wasn't because i was making excuses for not going back but bad things were happening outside of the people i know across the org.. what pissed me off the most (and the reason i found this site) is because i got the blame for my brother in-law having sex in my house with someone other than his wife (my sister) because i am not witness and thus have low standards.. i'll try to keep this short: i have 2 sisters, one brother and 2 parents (fancy that) both remarried however.

sparrow

I have been DF'd for around 4 years and have not got my back up about the org until this year. Only this last year have I been looking around for answers and started realising there is a foundation for my reasons of not going back. At first I was happy that it wasn't because I was making excuses for not going back but bad things were happening outside of the people I know across the org.

What pissed me off the most (and the reason I found this site) is because I got the blame for my brother in-law having sex in my house with someone other than his wife (my sister) because I am not witness and thus have low standards.

I'll try to keep this short: I have 2 sisters, one brother and 2 parents (fancy that) both remarried however. Only my sister, mother and father (and his new wife) are still in the "truth". We ALL still talked and hung out with each other and I thought were very close (especially because of what my brother has been through the last couple of years - another disturbing JW story).

Anyway...recently, my witness sister went to Melbourne for work for a week. At the same time my wife went to the pub with an old friend while I stayed at home as I had to work the next day. They ran into my brother in-law - who was wasted - and my wife responsibly took him home (with his work friend) so they didn't end up being stupid and driving home. That night my wife's friend found her way into my brother in-laws bedroom.

You can imagine the next week. The result of it all was it came back to me and my "standards" as a non-witness. My sister no longer talks to me as all of a sudden I am a bad influence. I was asleep for god sake before they even got home. I know that the bangers would have played the "it because your associating with a df'd person" and "god hates a divorce" leading to the "it must have been your brothers influence".

Like I said - I was not pissed off and could tolerate the JW's until this. I have an ex-elder friend in a similar boat, blamed for the corruption of his daughter - who was living with his JW mother at the time - that decided to go Goth and get a little crazy. She is now living with him full time and has actually started to settle down because the father is doing the right thing by her (showing love and understanding - hard concept I know)

I just get so mad now of the "higher than thou" attitude. I am the same person I was when I was a JW as far as my love for people goes and what I would and wouldn't do. It has nothing to do with being a witness. The reason I got disco'd was because of my empathy for people so don't tell me that I corrupt people because I left...

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