i believe that in the past i've started threads about ghosts and such but i haven't started one about me asking others if they have had a personal experience with a demon.. a couple of days ago i was talking to my dub son-in-law about how i wish i could believe in the unseen....such as ghosts, the paranormal, or anything out of the ordinary.. he said to me......"well what about demon stories"?
he related some stories that were given at an assembly from some who were greatly bothered by demons, mostly from africa.. so, what are we to make of those with such stories?
are they lying?
If we believe
That the living know that they will die
but the dead know nothing...then...
who else but demons impersonate the voices of the dead
that are heard at seances
who else but demons have privy to the intimate knowledge
of the deceased ....which convinces listeners
...is not a witness, yet states that the reason jws have survived is because of their ability to adapt.
just like the catholic church?
this was in response to a list of ever-changing doctrines from 100 years ago till the present day.
I personally am not ready to have this discussion now....but if I was....perhaps I'd ask exactly what the term 'adapt' means.
Next step would be to compare the persons 'personal' perception of 'adapt' to a 'dictionary' definition
When we both agreed on what the term means within the context of the discussion at hand......hmmmmm......Well then we could deal with the FACTS
Get a piece of paper...Put a line down the middle...with the facts
about both organizations.
This is probably a conversation I would have on paper.
i'm going through chemo right now , just had no.
3 of 4 treatments, i would like to talk to others who have or know someone who has.. had started to lose hair on day 15, mostly day 3,4,and 5 after treatments i ache like a bad case of flu and have to stay in bed don't even feel much like tv.
the meds keep away the neasua, very fatigued.. i know there are others that have it alot worse then me, so i'm not complaining just want to know if anyone else would like to talk about it..
Re the hair....kinda hot maybe for wigs....there are some cool summer straw hats around....I love wearing them but usually find them too hot because of my hair...BUT....they might be just the thing for you at this time. They are so flattering .
Have you googled chemo nausea...might be some natural remedies out there....when is the chemo over
I remember my preggie nausea....that was a 3 to 4 month stint...how much longer for you?
i'm recently widowed, 7mos, suddenly lost husband from heart attack, married 29yrs, have been inactive for around 5yrs and don't plan on going back to jw.. we were very close and i miss the daily interaction and conversation.
my daughter, 25, lives with me but it's not the same.
is there anyone els out there that would just like to chat,e-mail?
I too have been widowed but in my case for four years.
The first year we do the 'this time last year thing'
You are probably aware of the stages involved in the grief process
You may have gone thru them when you left the organization.
I am sending you lots of (((((HUGZ))))
I am sorry for your loss
I am impressed that you are reaching out.
Maggie
is a certain "uptightness" creeping into our community?.
should we be scolding one another?.
especially kids?
My youngest daughter is only 17...soooooo....that definitely affected how I respond to remarks that mention young girls.
I do feel uncomfortable somewhat about my reaction but I'm not sure 'where' my discomfort is coming from.
I think I will be more careful until I know myself better
Perhaps I should be concentrating on my own issues right now...until I am more confident about my ability to 'say the truth with love'
just reading frequent flyer miles on the subject of feeling guilty for having a happy marriage with a non-jw.. in our congregation which i haven't attended for about a year, i can only think of two or three who seem to be happy.
of course, i don't know what happens behind closed doors, but i know of several who admit they are unhappy.
i wrote out a long list of couples who have divorced over the last 20 years--including three elders (one is on his second divorce).
The elder and his wife who give(gave??) me bible studies seem happy and in sync with each other. I've seen them hold hands...and they've been married for over 30 years.
i have thought off and on about the jws for years.
my little sister brenda converted about 30 years ago and raised two sons in the truth as she called it.
one boy, mason, is still being raised as a jw (he is 15) and my other nephew, aaron, left the organization on his 18th birthday.
Johanna....welcome....I can relate.....I am a smoker...up until a week ago I felt that smoking and not understanding the 'blood' issue were the only things keeping me from baptism.
Looks like we've started on a journey of discovery but we've got company.
Shalom
is there anyone, when you see they have posted, that you always check to see what they have to say?
i always check blondie, bebu, alanf, farkel, onacruse, aguest (and probably others).
bc what they say has some gravity, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some insight.
I was going to say NOWISEE......but...the previous poster says she doesn't post much...sigh....will have to find somebody else to tag along after.....
r. f. wondered how many lurkers there are on the board.
i don't know the answer, but i will admit that i since a few years am one of them.
i read here almost every day.. like many others here i am an ex-jw, left the organisation about 25 years ago and never regretted it.. .
MADAME and ACKE..........Do I qualify yet to welcome you....SINCE i JUST MADE MY FIRST POST TODAY(jULY 8)
well let me just say it's good to see those who 'coincided' with me ....I don't really believe in coincidence.
LIES ALL LIES....was today your first post too......
There are so many great posters here who already know each other and they are so kind and welcoming and helpful and I AM so grateful
...but...still...it's nice to know I'm not the only newbie and I feel a special bond...so WELCOME.
I stayed up all nite a week ago when I first encountered all this 'new'
truth...I seem to remember a Wilkepedia article stating that the present president of WT is not annointed.??????
I too was told that .............forget that.................hmmm...........
Maybe I shouldn't be posting here til I can be more coherent...sorry...
I want to believe I've found the answer to my question (in this site) re WHERE DO i GO NOW.......but.....caution nibbles at me....not a bad thing to be cautious.....time will tell....but if what has been happenning to me continues....it will be good.(eventually)
So ....Assuming that my perceptions of this 'new' truth 'are' correct I would like to say how much I appreciate the opportunity to 'share' with you...even when I havn't much to contribute but my gratitude.
