hi everyone - i have posted only a couple times here but felt the urge to let loose a little bit today.
i am 41 years old, and after being brainwashed for the last 35 years, i can no longer continue as a jw - i have not been inside a kingdom hall in over a year, my friends and family have shunned me and i have very few associates outside of "the truth".. now i am not here to cry and feel sorry for myself.
but i would like to hear from some who are/were in a similar situation.
fedorE
Hi im around the same age.42, and raised in the CLUB (nr Toronto).......were u married , kids, parents still in it? All yes for me....imstill dealing with it......for me i didnt have a single thing to do with relgion for years and years until i realized im agnostic and happy with that....it really really is a bunch of nonsense that for some ppl ends up being a hope for the future thats better than nothing cause they dont know anybetter.....anyways ttyl and chin up
i used to collect audio tape talks and came to actually idolize ppl like sinutko....when he spoke it sounded like it was coming from heaven...he gave a talk on 1975 where he said, " i dont think the society has ever told you u couldnt read literature critical of the society...." wonder if he ever left or phil hayworth from australia, amazing speaker who's gave a talk on the last days of jesus and made it really personal...anyone know if this guy ever left?
A possible mental breakdown-wow-as a JW i remember looking up to people like him and thinking that they had so much spirit and spirituality that it made them more of a SUPERWITNESS and i would idolize those guys..they became my subsitutes instead of sports figures.( God i hate to admit that) Especially JRBrown and Sinutko, Phil Hayworth, Colin Quakenbush, Eugene Rosom, Fred Mays,Dan Sidlik,..a Jewsh NY CO...gave a talk on "friends"..cant remember his name....not BARRY HOROWITZ.!!!!..anyways you never know how they feel inside even with so much life invested in the CLUB.....
i just finished another of my famous letters i send to many of my family members... i've been told that i shouldn't come to the family reunion becasue i'm an apostate.
in my letter i stated that i in fact am going to be there stupid watchtower quotes in hand.
the first family member that shuns me will hear me read off every stupid statement that they've ever made... i said that i'm also bringing my bible and that i want someone in the family to show me in it where it states that i don't have the right to question the dictates of men and by my so doing i should be shunned!.
Cant beat having a cop as your friend....My family just had their family reunion which consisted of my JWparents and JWbrothers familym my visiting JW son, but everyone else was Catholic. I wasnt invited because JWbrothers wife is paying for hall rental and its indoors. If it was outdoors i could come.(anyone with a base ball bat handy)....but shes paying so i cant go.F B**ch. But the diff. is i find myself caring less and less and less ........
i used to collect audio tape talks and came to actually idolize ppl like sinutko....when he spoke it sounded like it was coming from heaven...he gave a talk on 1975 where he said, " i dont think the society has ever told you u couldnt read literature critical of the society...." wonder if he ever left or phil hayworth from australia, amazing speaker who's gave a talk on the last days of jesus and made it really personal...anyone know if this guy ever left?
Yeah thats the guy im talking about. Australian CO. Goes wayback eh! Great speaker that i hoped left the BS. But i always thought Sinutko would end up leaving.....
make it short and convince me that you have the right religion
Actuall presentation from former friend of mine
"hi do you want this"
"No?"
"ok by"
MY presentation as i was goin to leave JWS.....
pretend knock.
HMMMM. guess no one home.
it looks like there is some strong evidence, at least enough to charge him with numerous counts, including cruelty to animals.
if found guilty he could face prison time.
it's hard for me to believe that he was willing to risk his hard earned success for this dispicable behavior!
I hope Vick goes to prison for a couple of years gets in even better shape, comes out only to compete in Mixed Martial Arts...like the UFC...because he's football career seems doomed ...but then again ..Roy Jones Jr is a champion cockfighter..HUMMMM?
i like the way many of u think.....anyways since early 90's when i was dfd i totally abandoned the society but left my great amazing son in it ....didnt speak to my family except my mom for about 14 yrs and as she always invited me to move back home rent free!
in an empty house they visit from time to time.
i kept thinking: well my dad is getting to be 71 now ..and even tho i still speak in secret to my son (he had to stop seeing me 2yrs ago) maybe ill bs my way back in and i can actually see my son again and reestablish family ties...since i had broken up with my girlfriend.
I cant see him because he agreed to stop seeing me until i get reinstated. He was baptized at 15yrs old but his raging hormones get the better of him and he has always been involved with worldly girls at school. He did a great job of concealing but was ratted out by a local JW girl. Then a group of JWs went out together and one thing led to another and he ended up getting oral from a 19yr old JW girl ..he s 17. They agreed to keep it to themselves but as soon as she got home she told her mother who told my sons mother and a JC was set up. He didnt get Dfd but came close as it wasnt public knowledge so they just privately reproved him. He was just about to give an experience at the Dist ASS..when this happened last yr. So to appease his mother and step father-and elders- he agreed to stop seeing me as proof of his seriousness for the truth. Which pissed me off of course but we text message each other every other day..so...at least i got that. I will eventually reach him since he has my blood runing through his veins!!!!
i used to collect audio tape talks and came to actually idolize ppl like sinutko....when he spoke it sounded like it was coming from heaven...he gave a talk on 1975 where he said, " i dont think the society has ever told you u couldnt read literature critical of the society...." wonder if he ever left or phil hayworth from australia, amazing speaker who's gave a talk on the last days of jesus and made it really personal...anyone know if this guy ever left?
I used to collect audio tape talks and came to actually idolize ppl like SINUTKO....when he spoke it sounded like it was coming from heaven...he gave a talk on 1975 where he said, " i dont think the Society has ever told you u couldnt read literature critical of the Society...." wonder if he ever left or Phil Hayworth from australia, amazing speaker who's gave a talk on the last days of jesus and made it really personal...Anyone know if this guy ever left?
i like the way many of u think.....anyways since early 90's when i was dfd i totally abandoned the society but left my great amazing son in it ....didnt speak to my family except my mom for about 14 yrs and as she always invited me to move back home rent free!
in an empty house they visit from time to time.
i kept thinking: well my dad is getting to be 71 now ..and even tho i still speak in secret to my son (he had to stop seeing me 2yrs ago) maybe ill bs my way back in and i can actually see my son again and reestablish family ties...since i had broken up with my girlfriend.
I like the way many of u think.....anyways since early 90's when i was DFd i totally abandoned the Society but left my great amazing son in it ....didnt speak to my family except my mom for about 14 yrs and as she always invited me to move back home RENT free! in an empty house they visit from time to time. I kept thinking: well my dad is getting to be 71 now ..and even tho i still speak in secret to my son (he had to stop seeing me 2yrs ago) maybe ill BS my way back in and I can actually see my son again and reestablish family ties...since i had broken up with my girlfriend. Well I agreed to this and its been 2 1/2 yrs and still not reinstated...it took me 1yr just to not fall asleep and laugh out loud during the meetings....OR throw my Bible and the pineapple on stage.....eg: 1st time i had to control my laughter was during the prayer..."Thank you Jehovah for all the smiling faces..." omg! ......I started to go to the all the meetings except the bookstudy ..at the hall... because it made me feel way tooo uncomfortable in such a small room with ppl that made me LOL and thats why i think theyre not reinstating me. I was Dfd for apostasy..causing divisions.(i put things in the paper, sent letters to my friends at the branch, Brooklyn Bethel, did an interview for TV, .i was a total basketcase!....).so the local body of elders wrote the cong that Dfd me and basically they want proof that im seriously repentant...other than leaving my girlfriend to join(BS story i gave them)...they said they look forward to the day when they can call me brother but first I HAVE TO SHOW THE original cong HOW SORRY I AM ..so i wrote a BS letter.to my original cong saying how sorry i am blah blah blah.......they had another meeting with me and dropped the hint about the bookstudy..BUT I DONT WANT TO GO TO THE FK BS...so im slowly coming around to the idea of not re establing ties.......I had come to the realization at age 16 that i was awfully lucky to have the truth out of all ppl on earth but i had heard Fred Franz nephew who was on Gov Bod got Dfd and I wanted to know why. After all if i was Catholic and the Pope's right hand man got the boot Id wana know all the details...So i read anything and everything but i stupidly got married to the most ignorant person(but still a good mother to my son) and instead of bouncing ideas off each other shed say well its over my head ........Since i have been back i have seen family members and nieces and nephews and talked to them even tho im Dfd they've talked to me as a kind gesture since im attending meetings But I no longer want to get reinstated and If i leave i dont think my last shred of relationship will be salvaged with my mom whom i adore. I might just milk it for all i can but thank God all my relatives are "Catholic" !
mr. flipper here again gang!
so who do ya like all time?mr.
flippers list is as follows, almost in this way.
ABBA- the blonde can sing the phonebook and i would listen
THERION-simply amazing
AFTER FOREVER- opera metal
IRON MAIDEN- metal for the ages
CHARON- talent up the ying yang
NIGHTWISH-opera metal
THE ROLLING STONES-need i say more
THE BEATLES-arguably #1 of all time
DJ TIESTO-just hits you right there right in the heart
GUNS AND ROSES- hey man!
