Giordano,
That's probably the best experiences I've ever heard!
we had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.
he told me that was o.k.
because he could use me anyway for another part.
Giordano,
That's probably the best experiences I've ever heard!
just a brief introduction, i thought i would try out one of the more established forums, have done some stuff on youtube and other places but thought i would give this a try.. potted history: raised jw by mother, in it for 30 years or so, baptised at age 18, regular pioneer at 20, ms a couple years later, mts at 26 and got assignment to a new cong, elder at around 29, came off pioneering around 31, came off as elder around 32, started to slowly wind down, completely stopped attending about 3 years ago, disassociated dec 2010. pause for breath.. the last 5 years or so have been a painfully gradual process of deconstructing myself and then piecing together fragments of my shattered life that are still valid outside the organisation.
the question 'who am i?
' has been a continual investigation; every day for the first couple of years i would realise another subject or issue that i didn't have my own opinions about.
Welcome to the board!
I also used to notice people going into town to work every morning, I used to think, 'These people aren't witnesses, yet they have a life and a purpose and dignity and fulfilment!'
This was part of my awakening process as well. JWs are taught that people outside of the religion live a hopeless life full of empty activities and empty pursuits. In my experience, that is very far from the truth. I've even been told that if meet a happy non-witness that they are probably on a mood altering drug and if you meet one that appears to be fullfilled its just a lie to cover up how sad their life really is.
You are right, when you step away from the Witnesses for a few meetings and just observe people in general, one will start to realize that what we were taught is not the truth and borderline crazy.
we had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.
he told me that was o.k.
because he could use me anyway for another part.
I've done assembly parts as well and know first hand that many of the stories are "modified to encourage the flock" and some are just plain made up.
When at rehearsal for a part with multiple experiences, the speaker basically told folks what to say to punch up their story. I would not go along with it and so he let it go. Then he attempted to put me on the spot on the stage during the assembly part. I gave the first part of my experience. He stated (or misstated) the next part of my story and then asked my to share what happened next. I started off with saying "Well, Br. Speaker that's not quite how it went" and then corrected him and continued with the experience.
LOL...I got a talking to from the speaker and circuit overseer when we all went backstage after the part. My reply was "Did you want me lie like the other Sisters did in their experience? What, CO, you didn't know? Several of us were asked to change our stories to the point of lying. My conscience would not allow me to go along with it and I told Br. Speaker that at the rehearsal."
I was never asked to do a part, on the assembly or at the local congregation, again.
BTW, its not just limited to assembly parts...many experiences in their literature are also twisted beyond what actually happened.
i've been registered at jwn for 1 year!
i've made so much progress since i first started coming here.
i was an inactive jw who was just trying to move on from what i considered a benign but demanding religion.
Happy Anniversary! Here's to you and your freedom...cheers!
i know there have already been a couple of threads posted about this, but i thought it made since to bring it up again.
i hadn't really heard any "oh my what a blessing, are you pioneering in april?
" talk right after the big announcement last month.
The title of "Pioneer" is not Biblical, and has just become a superficial carrot for anyone who is not comfortable with their spirituality.
Very true. I haven't been to a meeting or in field service in a couple of years now but have messages and emails encouraging me to participate in the upcoming special month of activity. Supposedly, I would be so encouraged after getting 30 hours that I would be reassured that its God's organization. Delete, delete, delete...
Sometimes, I feel sad for the lot of them.
came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.
me..
It'll get better...at least now you can live, for real. Wishing you all the best...
i may set all of us back but what the hell.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-oqyzc1da.
Part 2...I really hope they catch the guy but the brother and sister are hilarious...
Yes, if a firm commitment has been made, a solid date has been set and a deposit made on the banquet hall...go for it!
Oh wait, I'm not a christian.
i may set all of us back but what the hell.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-oqyzc1da.
Hilarious! The remix is well done...
But what I want to know is why is Dinah apologizing to african-americans? How do know you that guy is african-american? No need to apologize, we all know that crazy comes in ALL ethnic groups. Not an attempt to hijack...just sayin'...
Anyway...when I first watched the video I was looking for Obama too...ROFL!
so i decided to look up an old witness friend on facebook.
he accepted my friend request but a few hours later he sent me this message:.
it seems to me that things with you have simply gone further astray.
Eiben Scrood...I received a similar email from a really close friend a few months ago. The interesting part was that my friend was not all that active but one of the nicest persons I've ever known, which is why I continued my friendship with the person even though they were "spiritually weak". I was in shock because I'd been friends with that person literally through thick and thin, when every else gave up on the person and really thought we would be friends no matter what. But I knew something was up because my calls/texts were no longer being answered.
Then I finally got an email explaining that they could no longer be my friend. Supposedly, after a personal visit from the CO, the person decided to draw closer to Jehovah organization and I was a distraction. The sad part is I know the person has doubts because they expressed them years before I did. Oh well, another "friendship" ruined.
Happy Wednesday.