all of you who are able to read and cull necessary information from the pages of the wt/awake.. because of 'where i am' on this journey of xjwdom, i would barf if i read even one page of their material.
i know it is so full of lies and deceit and corporate word-wrangling.. so we need all of you to filter the garbage for us.. it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.. thanks,.
lisa
LDH
I can get the mags ok but I haven't got a scanner.
I read a bundle of the latest issues last week and found nothing of interest and I mean NOTHING. It's the same drivel in the same monotonous tone that used to bore my knickers off 30 years ago.
With gritted teeth I will continue to look out for incriminating evidence but I have to say the word is CAREFUL from the WTBS. They are walking on eggshells!!!
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i turned to this website looking for encouragement.. i thought it was a genuine jw chat site.. what do i find?.
most who write here, don't belive in the jw teachings.. most are complainers and apostate.. does any one know were i can find a genuine jw site?
No not Fred.
Like I said spelling's too good.
But you know what? I'm wasting precious reading time playing this game so bugger it.
Too predictable.
Why can't just one of the baiters show some originality?
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i turned to this website looking for encouragement.. i thought it was a genuine jw chat site.. what do i find?.
most who write here, don't belive in the jw teachings.. most are complainers and apostate.. does any one know were i can find a genuine jw site?
What's going on?
Is this the latest craze for JW's?
Every time I read this forum lately there is some "witness" spouting indignant and often insulting remarks at the regulars.
Are you sure these screeching visitors aren't Fred Hall? Oh sorry silly me the spelling is too good.
Maybe You Know then? MM maybe not-not boring and long-winded enough.
My only comment to Sue is why are you still here unless you are getting a thrill from dicing with danger?
Any other thrill-seeking lurkers out there with the guts to take a pop like good ol Sue? Will you have the guts to admit the curiosity is eating you up?Go on keep reading.After all if you have the truth then nothing anyone can say in here can change that surely.
We don't want to fight.We were you once and understand you in a way you may never find out.
Call a truce Sue?
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Sorry if you feel I was being hard on Ray Franz.I think his C of C book is a gem and a life saver and absolutely priceless. I suppose I am very much a dreamer and idealist but hey I don't begrudge Ray compensation for all he has been through and his hard work.
I just feel that there is some great work being done by individuals on the net who use Ray's material to reach hearts of JW's trapped and crying out for help. They do not abuse the privilege and write their own researched articles as well.They are not in it for any material gain but only seek to inform and aid JW's to break free.
Surely Ray would be delighted that his info is reaching JW's who although daring enough to lurk would faint if caught buying THAT book.
In my opinion most people who have seen glimpses of Ray's books go on to buying them anyway.They've just had their taste buds tweaked.
I'd love to hear Ray Franz' comments.
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Mmmm
And here was I in my naive little fantasy that ex-JW's wrote soul-stirring books to rescue their former brothers from the materialistic WTBS not for personal gain.
Seems like in or out principles are tossed to the wind when they get in the way of making hard cash.
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i want to join the jw family but i am having trouble finding a hall in houston.
do anyone know how i can find one or help me by giving me one in houston.
thanks
Daniel
JW's are nice people.Individually they are usually genuine and loving persons.
Unfortunately they are misguided and have been misled by an organisation afraid to admit it is wrong mostly because this would herald an avalanche of lawsuits and money is an important issue to the WTBS.
But you can find info on the org very easily.As easy as finding KH's in a telephone directory no doubt.
Let he with a mouse just point and click...hmmm
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as i sit in front of my computer in a drunken stupor wondering what might have been, i felt i had to post my story to those who might truly understand what i am going through.. i am a newbie here, but have been lurking around for the last few weeks.
i am 25 years old, from ontario, and totally heartbroken.. to give you some background, back in 1998, i studied with the witnesses because some friends of mine, whom i believe to be honest and sincere people, gave me (i thought at the time) some good advice to start a book study.
i did, and i really enjoyed it because i felt they presented everything factually and had a strong interpretation of the scriptures (i'm a facts man, you see).
Hi Jeremy
Just want to add my sympathy.
Try not to feel bitter against her.She must be going through hell getting over you as well.Of course she will have a support system set in place with soothing voices telling her she has done the right thing and put Jehovah first.She probably feels like a righteous martyr.But don't forget she also will no doubt feel gutted and lost.Her refusal to listen to what you had to say is not a reflection of her lack of trust - the poor girl has no choice. She has been brainwashed to avoid any information that may shake her faith. She is steadfastly trying to stay loyal to God .Godly zeal is absolutely passionate especially at baptism.Romantic love comes second to a relationship with everlasting life as the ultimate orgasm.
Get on with your life and try to think of her with kindness.Don't hold out any hope she will see sense as it is unlikely.Just slyly cross your fingers.
Forgive her for choosing Jehovah over you as that is how she will see it.
Try not to allow the final outcome to sully the beautiful moments you had together and the feelings you both experienced.
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god is by definition all knowing.
as an omniscient being, what is there that would require faith on god's part?.
god tells us in the bible to be like him... "be ye perfect, even as your father in heaven is perfect".. .
AGuest
Are you for real or are you taking the p?
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as a jw, i was always disturbed by the inconsistency in the society's position on abortion / kids dying at armageddon.. the wt opposes abortion, calling it murder.
yet if a child is just one day old when armageddon comes, it will perish with it's parents, since the parents bear responsibility for their children.
so goes the wt line.. i could never reconcile these two viewpoints.
If I believed in the Biblical God I would have no trouble believing He would slaughter innocent babies.Aren't there plenty of examples of this in the OT (such a heartwarming read..)?
The blood-thirsty God of the OT was not moved by the wailing of babies.It was all for a just cause wasn't it?A kind of early example of Ethnic Cleansing.
The tone was set right at the beginning of time. Why then are we so horrified at atrocities going on in the name of war in our time? Were we not created by a God of war, the same God who though apparantly not partial chose one race and spurred them on to destroy all other races?
I can't understand how anyone can believe that the God of the scriptures "is love".
So I can accept that He would kill kids.
That's why I don't want to believe the Bible anymore and it's rather horrifying image of our creator.
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cybersex: real or fantasy!.
i would like to tell you good people a story and when i'm finished i would appreciate your honest opinion as i know you wouldn't give me anything less.
my wife and i have been fighting about a situation which recently arose in our home.
DM
Well as a wife I have found myself in situationsin chat rooms where men have been coming on. Momentarily I was tempted to flirt after all it is harmlessif you never meet isn't it?
Strangely enough though I felt disloyal to hubby and found myself escaping the situation pretty sharpish.
It did not feel right to me and I would hate it if hubby did it to me.It's flirtation however you try andjustify it and you are reacting to another man and feeling realfeelings of excitement etc.
I dunno what I would doif it cybersex was the issue.Is cyberadultery grounds for divorceyet. It would be in our house!!!
My sympathy is with you.Hope you sort it.
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