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  Going out with a bang

  by LittleToe in

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  after much deliberation, i decided to go "out" at the end of a public talk.

  it didn't go down too well, but at least i was able to give some of my reasons for leaving.. i've put some of the details on my homepage.

  i'll update it more when i get the time and the strength.

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  freeborg

  At last truth from the platform! WELL DONE
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  Mother, wife, myself, DA'ing ourselves

  by ashitaka in

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  well, i've finally had it.

  i'm da'ing myself, along with a piece of my fam.

  the unbaptised ones are refusing to go with my father now, and even my still devout father is leaning towards our opinion on things.. there wasn't even any screaming when i called the jw's the great hypocrisy last nite.. i just can allow myself to be associated with them in any way.

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  freeborg

  Your experiences are so similar to mine and many others, the best thing you can do is turn your back on it all and allways look forward to the life you can now enjoy without the WTS looking over your shoulder.
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  Open Letter To Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Outaservice in

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  you may not remember, but i know you very well.

  i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.

  you told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.

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  freeborg

  HOW TRUE
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  2nd KH visit pending - suggestions pls

  by BritBoy in

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  i know the last post i did on this subject was a real fire starter... however that said, i am starting to plan my follow-up visit!

  suggestions as to what nerves could be touched this time please!!.

  as a refresher i touched on these:.

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  freeborg

  1. Sit at the front of the Kingdom Hall
  2. Go to the toilet every 10 mins
  3. Walk out before the last pray
  4. NEVER GO AGAIN!!!!!!
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  Condemned By Their Own Words

  by worf in

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  i posted this on the old h2o board and i am posting it here especially for those who are still inside the wts and for those lurking here who may now be questioning the wts.. this taken from the watchtower bound volume of 1962 pages 112-114.. this article gives the bible account of 1 kings 13:1-28 in paragraphs 10-14. i will not quote the entire passage here because of its length but i suggest you read it when you have the chance.. the information presented in this article definitely contains the usual wts contradictions but this article is proof that any jw is not obligated to obey anything said by the wts whether the so-called direction comes from an elder, ministerial servant, co, do, city overseer, or gb member.. here are some of the exact words from this watchtower article under the subheading "avoiding presumptuous acts" :"what does the christian learn from this?

  to be constant in faultless walking in jehovah's eye's, always seek his direction, especially at perplexing moments in life.

  never push ahead presumptuously either on our own ideas or upon the urgings of someone else, even though that person may occupy a responsible position in god's organization.

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  freeborg

  Interesting point is all these men in positions hide behind the ORGANISATION, and if the org says it god has spoken. The rank and file will forgive anyone and anything for the sake of the ORGANISATION.
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  Is this the year the WT Falls?

  by Jim Dee in

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  in the last 6 months the following has happened.

  un involvement rocks the society.

  leaks from the elders school.

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  freeborg

  Oh how I wish it was.
  But the reality will be more new light to overcome all the problems.
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  Tell Old School Friends That You've Left?

  by Englishman in

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  some of the uk national newspapers have been referring to the web-site at http://friendsreunited.co.uk/, where thousands and thousands of brits have been getting back in touch with old school friends.. just out of curiosity i decided to take a peek.

  well, i was stunned.

  many long-forgotten class-mates had my mind leaping back to the early 60s, particularly when they mentioned the weird nicknames that we had given to our teachers.. the french master, froggy fleuriot, mousy mclaughlan with his rats teeth, bummer burrell well, i will leave that one to your imagination.

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  Eman,

  I signed upto friends reunited about 6months ago and had great fun getting in touch with school mates, all of which remembered me as a witness. I took great delight in telling them that I had put that all behind me, I even got intouch with an old witness friend who I have helped get out of the borg.
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  Stephen Bates - Guardian Article

  by anglise in

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  i have a scanned copy of a new article in the guardian newspaper (26th jan 02), written by stephen bates.. if anyone would like a copy, please shout!!.

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  freeborg

  Fred,

  Steve Bates talks sense unlike watchtower morons talking utter trash.
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  Latest article from Stephen Bates

  by Ivor Hope in

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  thought you might like to see stephen bates latest article in the guardian.witness on the watchtower .

  stephen bates.

  guardian.

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  freeborg

  I've bought my copy and long may Stephen Bates articles hit at the heart of the WTS.
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  Is praying good for you?

  by sleepy in

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  when in the "truth" most of us used to pray.. i used to pray for help in doing things , say give a talk , and would ask for holy spirit .i felt i needed it to give a talk well.. but was it all just a placebo effect.. did the belief that i was getting help cause me to become more confident because i though god was helping me?.

  as time went on in the truth i felt as if prayer was just talking to your self.in fact i found it embarissing to give prayers in public as i felt silly talking to an invisible creature.. but in the night i would prayer and maybe go over the days events , think about new things coming up , other people and life in general.. is this benifical to a person?.

  in doing this we are meditating on events we would not otherwise think deaply about , this can help us think of solutions to problems or put things in perspective.. how often would we review events if we didnt pray.. now i doubt that we are conversing with god , but i think to "pray" or go over events in your mind maybe once a day or whatever, is good for your well being and can help you with lifes problems.. although not getting help from another creature we as humans need to meditate in order to make good decisions.. the placebo effect doesn't seem to work anymore and i rely on myself and my experience to help me do difficult tasks.. but when something really big comes up i admit i still say a little prayer.

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  freeborg

  I have spent no time praying or having the urge to pray, since leaving the WTS 2 years ago I have wondered who and what to pray to.
  Who is listening?