would anyone care to elaborate on the Franz disfellowshipping and what let up to it? I have never heard of it until now. I was probably too young to remember
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by DeusMauzzim inok here's the scenario:.
i'm baptised, not da'd or df'd but 1yr inactive because i'm pretty 200% sure dubdom isn't the truth(tm) - i basicly just left silently.
naturally i do not feel myself bound by their rules of living anymore.
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James Rayford's Talk - 1 Year on... DC Talk
by AlphaOmega inat the convention, a brother gave the following exerpt within the talk "do not follow - after false stories".
mp3 here... http://www.savefile.com/files/914842.
sensational tales or experiences received via e-mail could be "false stories".. so when you receive an e-mail, you know where it comes from because it tells you does't it... it's printed out on the piece of paper.. ... but if you are sent and experience or a doubtful story, can you find out what the origin is of that account or that experience?.
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Beware the internet! Apostacy is rampant!
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heh, I remember the apostates that would show up with signs outside our District conventions. I remember being told, "Don't even look at them, don't read anything!" They were/are so demonized, I swear, you though that you were seeing actual demons in a human body.
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Newbies - Give us your stories....
by AK - Jeff inmost of old posters have hashed and re-hashed our backgrounds, history, and method of discovering the 'truth about the truth'.. your turn newbies!.
those who are lurking without the benefit of registration - it only takes a minute, and you too can give us your stories!.
those registered lurkers - what holds you back?
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Well I've been enjoying reading everyone's story, so here's my contribution:
I had my doubts here and there about certain teaching and beliefs held by the WTS, some no different than other religious. One of the earliest ones I had was as a child, probably 10yrs old or so. I was talking with a girl of my same age, and as kids, we didnt' have the same fear instilled in us discussing what would be considered "worldly thinking" I told her that I thought that I thought that there could be life on other planets, and she felt the same way. I mean, the Evolution book went on and on about how vast the universe was (that was the bookstudy book of the time) so why was is so unbelievable to think that there was other life elsewhere? She agreed and that was the first and last encounter that I had with someone else that felt the same way, until I broke myself away.
Throughout my teens, I like everyone else, tried to repress the "unclean" thoughts that bombarded my mind constantly. The more I tried to repress them, the stronger they were. I thought that I was possessed by demons or was opening myself up to them all the time! I was always so scared, I didn't understand why I would be thinking the things in my mind and thought Jehovah must have abondoned me or something and that I was going to die very soon in Armageddon. I was always hoping as a kid that I would get to do something before Armageddon came, like, "I hope I can get the Nintendo 64 and have some fun playing it before Armageddon comes and destroys me" or, "I hope Armageddon doesn't come and destroy me before we go to Disneyland next month" Constant fear.
After I finished highschool, I got a job selling cars while still living at home. I was going to community college at the same time, so I was socially interacting with other worldly people a lot more. My job paid pretty well, which allowed me to spend more on worldly things, but I was still going to the meetings at the time. One of the 2nd turning points occurred when I was badly physically beaten at a witness gathering. I was about 19 at the time and was invited by my sister to a get-together at the beach were some witness friends around our ages were going to be hanging out. There was lots of alcohol present (typical of youth witness gatherings) and I offended someone by touching their hat. This person, a brother in the congergation, beat the crap out of my face to the point where both my eyes were swollen shut and I had my teeth knocked out. The cosmetic dental bill was nearly 3K. The brothers in the congregation did nothing to the accused other that have a talk with him. I became disillusioned by the congregation that they did nothing about the situation. My mother, a devout JW, was shocked as well, but did nothing else to press the matter. After that, I pretty much lapsed into a double life world of cocaine and ecstacy, and premarital sex. I hit my breaking point when I was coming to the Sunday meetings still high from the debaucharies of the earlier night. I couldn't bring myself to shame the house of Jehovah anymore, so I did not come back. In the interim, due to my absence, I was able to analyze some of the disparities that had crossed my mind, namely the one of 1914 and the anointed class being witness to Armageddon. I thought to myself, "c'mon, this is what has been taught as absolute and yet it is not being fulfilled!" I also have to owe my departure to my worldly influences at the time, and some of the drugs I did to open my mind and realize that we are not alone and there is much more to life than living in fear of being destroyed before you have a chance to get married to that witness girl/guy and have sex for the first time!!
Thanks for bearing with me on that long, probably somewhat incoherant, post.
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WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
by DannyHaszard inmark this!in 2007 watchtower still say's 1914 jesus second coming who are the jehovahs witnesses?regular people and not part of a cult.
people who want others to know about god and the bible.
believers that these are the last days before armageddon and that it is urgent for people to develop a relationship with god.
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[quote]The absurdity of it is that when the generation doctrine was changed in 1995 [/quote] wait, so what was exactly changed? I thought that they still believe that the some generation that saw jesus' coming would be the same that witness armageddon? Does anyone know what the official count is of those partaking in the passover? IIRC, they used to publish or announce that information every year. I'd find it hard to believe there is more than a couple dozen left, if that.
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Most Ex-JWs R Not Active in the Anti-JW Community. Maybe 1%? Any thoughts?
by Seeker4 inyesterday i called a family on the west coast that were in my congregation 18 years ago.
between parents, kids and marriage partners, there were six of them who had been witnesses.
they have all faded, and have had nothing to do with the witnesses for at least 15 year or more.. yet, none of them is in any way active even in looking at the ex-jw sites online.
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Thanks Spaz!
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wow, I went to the KH in Vista growing up; I lived in Bonsall at the time. I'm now down in Mission Hills. Did anyone go to the meadowlake/shadowrigde/college park congregations? I would love to find out what happened with one person in particular, D. Alcaras.
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Most Ex-JWs R Not Active in the Anti-JW Community. Maybe 1%? Any thoughts?
by Seeker4 inyesterday i called a family on the west coast that were in my congregation 18 years ago.
between parents, kids and marriage partners, there were six of them who had been witnesses.
they have all faded, and have had nothing to do with the witnesses for at least 15 year or more.. yet, none of them is in any way active even in looking at the ex-jw sites online.
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1914!
Honestly, I am shocked that a website like this exists. I fell away from the truth around 5-6yrs ago. My mother still belonged, and she shunned me for a long time after I vocally expressed my disbelief in the teachings. I happened upon this website after joining my local newspaper's forum yesterday and seeing a thread on JW's started by Danny Haskel. Obviously this guy goes out of his way to get his message out being that he live in Maine and I'm in San Diego. A little background on my departure: One of the things that started to set the wheels in motion for my departure was my disappointment in how the elders handled a situation that I was involved in. Basically, when I was about 19 or 20, I was invited by my sister to a witness get-together on the beach. We basically drank around a bonfire and things got a little hairy, I offended someone that was drunk and got the crap beaten out of me. I lost a few teeth and was unconcious for god knows how long. My face was badly bruised and I just drove myself home later that night. The outcome was that the other brother involved in the fight was supposedly "reprimanded" and that was that. I'll never forget his name, Ryan Nelson. I was pretty disillusioned after hearing this. I thought they would do the right thing and DF this guy, especially after finding out he had a history of this kind of behavior. Nothing ever happened. I really think that was the turning point. I'm really pretty excited that I found this site and can't wait to call my mother up (I know, sounds stupid) and tell her a few things that I had NO idea about i.e the child molestation issues. She's moved from San Diego to Arizona (I wonder if this was an excuse to fall away from the meetings) and as far as I know, doesn't attend meetings. I after I left, I think that planted a few seeds and she has finally escaped most of the stranglehold the WTS had on her. Thank god my dad never bought into all this crap growing up! Its great to find others that have the same viewpoint and to know I was not alone!!!!
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Listing of common acronyms
by 1914! incould someone list off the common acronyms and their meaning?
i've been an ex-jw for a few years now and can't seem to remember a lot of them.
i had no idea there was a society like this!
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Oh and what is the difference between the GB and the FDS? Heh, I'm catching on fast... just need to sand off some of that rust...
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Listing of common acronyms
by 1914! incould someone list off the common acronyms and their meaning?
i've been an ex-jw for a few years now and can't seem to remember a lot of them.
i had no idea there was a society like this!
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GB? Governing Body?
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Listing of common acronyms
by 1914! incould someone list off the common acronyms and their meaning?
i've been an ex-jw for a few years now and can't seem to remember a lot of them.
i had no idea there was a society like this!
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Could someone list off the common acronyms and their meaning? I've been an ex-JW for a few years now and can't seem to remember a lot of them. I had no idea there was a society like this! Crazy!