Posts by LearningToFly

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Depression...

by Alana in

18 years ago

i was reading another thread discussing bi-polar disorder.

i have a situation close to me that concerns me and i don't quite know what to do.

a person i know who has been under treatment (medication only) for depression has been under alot of stress.

18 years ago

Hello Alana, your friends situation I know all to well personally from myself. Until a physician is able to prescribe the right combination to an individual, there is alot of up and down time.. and some very low times. And even medications I have found does not heal depression totally. The best thing I did for myself was to join a depression support group here in my city. It was hard, I didnt want the labels, ect.. but am so glad that I did. All the messages in ones mind, the feelings one has about self while in a depressive stage others in the same situation feel as well. Like this forum, just hearing others speak on how they felt made me feel not so crazy and alone. I would have at the community resources and see what is available out there, I found mine through mental health resources. What a world of difference this support has made to my life.

I hope your friend finds peace.. its a tough place to be in for your friend, and all supporting!

LTF

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where did everybody go

by joelbear69 in

jw
friends

18 years ago

its been years since i posted.

i've gone through a rough period.

but i've posted enough about that.. i have recovered and hope to be part of the board again.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Welcome back Joel, I am new so dont know you.. but welcome!

LTF

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I am dropping off the face of the web...

by jgnat in

jw
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18 years ago

i leave in a few days.

nothing drastic, just a glorious road trip through the rockies.

unless i drag hubby in to a cyber cafe along the way, i will be incommunicado.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Have a wonderful holiday Jgnat, enjoy those lovely mountains for me

LTF

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Active Elders who post on JWD

by Honesty in

18 years ago

does your conscience torment you knowing that you are misleading the flock of god as you continue teaching them the heresies of the watchtower society?.

why are you staying in the organization and posting here at the same time?.

do you really believe that you can help your families to reject the watchtower society while remaining an elder and visibly appearing to support their lies and false teachings?.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

When I first joined this forum, I also questioned why an active JW would be here and post. I queeried it to myself for a little while, then realized that I was actually thinking like a JW.. horrors of all horrors! My experience of departure was sudden, there was no time to think of it. But if I had stayed, which I likely could have for many years if I hadnt experienced sudden disalusionment. I am unsure as to what I would do if I had a wife/husband or children involved in the organization. I consider myself to be a very honest person, but in this situation, I would likely search for the best way out, doing so diplomatically in order not to lose my immediete loved ones. I am not sure if it is more painful to live with something you do not believe in, while seeking a way out, or to have my experience of immediete shunning. As a mother, my daughter comes first in my life, I doubt that I could openly alienate her from myself due to a change in my beliefs. I would very cautiously plan, and hope to sneak away with our relationship still in tact. Or better yet, take her with me. Such a tough situation, I am glad I don't have to deal with it.

I try hard to live by the following quote by Hermann Hesse, by doing so, I cannot judge, only empathize with my fellow humans even if I do not agree.

"It is not our purpose to become each other; it is to recognize each other, to learn to see the other and honor him for what he is" Hermann Hesse

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AN INTERESTING OPINION...

by Terry in

18 years ago

the crimes of jews .

pottling and kettling .

july 30, 2007 .

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Very interesting thoughts, thank you, I always enjoy your postings as well

It's interesting that even my grandmother who is and was a JW, made unkind comments about Jewish people while I was growing up. She was a very judgemental woman. I to this day cannot understand why there is so much hatred towards Jewish people. All the arguements presented to ridicule them as a people don't work for me.

Another thought for me to google and have a look at..

I am now also wanting a Rueben sandwich.. omg.. those are so yummy!

LTF

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Is it SABOTAGE or HONESTY

by BCberean in

18 years ago

i think i just lost another man because of the 'sex within the confines of marriage' issue.. my sister said i should wait til i have them hooked before i make it clear where i stand.. doesn't seem quite honest to me......but....i'm wondering if i'm somehow sabotaging the relationship.. .

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Strong, personal values are our own, and it is very important for us as individuals to stand by them. Honesty is always the best option, especially in something so important as a relationship. There is no point in misleading someone from the start of a relationship, if your most basic values are contradictive to each others, then the relationship truly isnt compatible from the start.

Hang in there, continue to be honest is my advice.. . The right man will stick around for the right reasons!

LTF

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Comments You Will not Hear will be taking a brief hiatus for the next 2 wks

by blondie in

18 years ago

or so due to health, availability of articles, and personal priorities.

after that, the format will be briefer consisting mostly of the article with fewer comments by me allowing more comments by readers/posters.. love, blondie.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Hope all is well with you, I have enjoyed reading your postings and will look forward to doing so upon your return.

Wishing you a restful break

LTF

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i wonder

by bigdreaux in

18 years ago

i didn't want to hijack the wanderer's new thread about weather the w.t.s.

should be held accountable for shunning, but, in reading it, a thought flashed across my little brain.

he pointed out that apostates that picket conventions are usually the worst kind of "apostates" they usually seem angry and uneducated.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

While attending the huge conventions in Vancouver, British Columbia, there were always what was defined as apostates picketing outside. I doubt they were planted there, but were sincere individuals who just happen to choose that way of educating others to another way of thinking, with good reason to do so. Some were quite loud and obvious, and others just there.

I have to laugh now, as I was scared to death of them, the word apostate gave me shivers back then. I seriously thought then that they were capable of sprouting horns. Up until this forum.. I still carried the idea with me that apostates were crazy and scary. Now that I understand the definition of apostate from posters here.. I see that I would be considered and apostate as well.. . That realization really amused me when I read through this site

LTF

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Youtube video: Therapist discusses Mind Control

by LearningToFly in

18 years ago

i came upon this video while viewing another video from a previous post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viswagy_emg .

topic: ex jehovah's witness, now therapist discusses mind control.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

Thank you SirNose.. while watching I was sure the resemblence was familiar, but wasnt sure from where till now. My memory has giant holes in it at times

Wonderful video Lady Lee.. Thank you!

LTF

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Youtube video: Therapist discusses Mind Control

by LearningToFly in

18 years ago

i came upon this video while viewing another video from a previous post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viswagy_emg .

topic: ex jehovah's witness, now therapist discusses mind control.

18 years ago

LearningToFly 18 years ago

I came upon this video while viewing another video from a previous post.

Topic: Ex Jehovah's Witness, now Therapist discusses Mind Control.

I wish when I was looking for a therapist after my departure, that I could have met with someone who actually understood the psychological impact of such indoctrinated control experienced within the JW organization. I experienced true concern, and empathy, but no real understanding of where I was coming from. More recently having been diagnosed with PTSD, another therapist shared that I was fighting as well.. "Post Cult Trauma Syndrome" directly related to the psychological impact of spiritual abuse and other abuses experienced within the organization due to their controlling atmosphere.

I am still not free.. but am understanding daily how seriously my experiences within impacted my entire life and psychological wellness.

I thank the poster for posting this video in Youtube. Every little bit helps in processing life!

LTF

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