i understand we are all sick of hearing about michael jackson.
this website called the kaleidoscope factor has numerous pro-jw comments posted by obvious jw's, with few posts telling the truth about the religion.. here is the link that was posted in another post: http://traceyricksfoster.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/michael-jacksons-children-attend-local-kingdom-hall-of-jehovahs-witnesses-with-aunt/.
here is a good chance to make a statement, one which will be seen by many.. regards,.
I understand we are all sick of hearing about Michael Jackson. This website called The Kaleidoscope Factor has numerous pro-JW comments posted by obvious JW's, with few posts telling the truth about the religion.
Here is the link that was posted in another post: http://traceyricksfoster.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/michael-jacksons-children-attend-local-kingdom-hall-of-jehovahs-witnesses-with-aunt/
Here is a good chance to make a statement, one which will be seen by many.
Regards,
LTF
he who repeats what he does not understand is no better than an ass that is loaded with books.
when you long for blessings that you may not name, and when you grieve knowing not the cause, then indeed you are growing with all things that grow, and rising toward your greater self.
~kahlil gibran
Favorite Kahlil Gibrah Quote are:
And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair.
Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They came through you but not from you and though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
LTF
i am the first person to say jw's should be exposed for the flip flops in doctrine, the united nation scandal, the pedophillia cases, and all of the things that they have said and did since charles taze russell started this religion.
but at the same time it makes me angry when i hear or read some things that ex-jw's and apostates print up about jw's.
tell the truth and the truth will set you free jesus christ admonished his disciples and i totally agree.
Who are making up a big thing? I realize that there are "some" that label everyone involved, but I do not believe the majority really says, "all" JW's" do this or that! Like any other organization, group or religion there are many beautiful people within, not all are twisted! Reality though is this, the JW congregations have ignored and covered up pedophillia cases for many years and only started to change things in the early 80's. I Know this, as I have intimate details on more than one abuse situation in the congregation I grew up in. If you cry, and I know this factually, in some elders committee meetings you can be forgiven just because you showed remorse! Big woopdee doo! Crying is easy for some and the victims were viewed as the guilty ones because they didnt say.. awww.. you apologized and you cried.. your forgiven. Bite me I say! Tell me how ones who have been in this situation should respond? No police report!, because it is wrong! No one trained to truly understand and know how to handle situations like this because education is not allowed! You truly cannot ignore this fact unless you truly have no concept of the realties involved in them and have gone through them yourself. I recommend that you do more research, dig deep and listen to those who speak out on issues relating to the JW faith. We do not tell stories! We lived what we share! Pull your head out of the sand and truly see whats going on, if you just go by what the organization has to say you are allowing yourself to be programmed like a robot, what strong human being would want that? I was once one of those drones, I am greatfull to have found my own brain! Please do not insult the majority of us here by lumping us all together with just haters, most of us here have travelled a long road and were once true believers only to come to a place in life where we realized due to deep thought, study and personal experiences that we were all duped and what we focussed our entire lives on was just a controlling cult who required all members to be thoughtless robots in order to belong. I am so thankful to have regained control of my mental processes unlike the years I was trained to be a yes man saluter to anything taught. LTF
i recently discovered that it wasn't me after all, and that some people are just jerks.
i am at peace.
Junction Guy I often wonder when reading your posts/threads why you are not an active JW. You obviously are sympathetic to the beliefs and seem to fit within them. And if that is how you feel, that is quite okay. We all choose our paths.
What I wonder to myself, and have always wondered with those that obviously believe is why you arent living that life fully? In my opinion if one believes something, then they should live it, and not live a double life in any way.
Once long ago when I believed and sympathized I would never have been in a forum like this. I am here though because I knew what I was raised with was wrong. It does not seem that way with you. You seem to be hanging on the edge, belong or not!
I truly wish you Peace JG.. I've read so many posts on this forum.. some supporting you, but many bashing you. Why do you continue to push a false double face to the world. Live as who you are, then you will gain respect.
LTF
this angers me .
elders who will not make shepherding calls to comfort their brothers and sisters but as soon as that brother or sister puts one little foot out of line those same f-----g (sorry about the language but it really angers me ) elders can not move fast enough to form a judicial committee and then are so unmerciful - it makes me want to vomit literally
What angers me the most is I totally believed the falsehoods I was taught from childhood and had those beliefs follow me into my adult life even after I left.
At one time, I totally believed it was the total truth, and spent many anguished hours, thoughts, and dreams punishing myself for every little mistake I made. I regret every single anguished thought felt due to being misinformed.
LTF
for me, i had doubts from the beginning.
however, my 1st major doubt came as i had it confirmed that other people felt like i did about certain big issues within the org.
there were many, i realised, that just knew things were not right.
I had doubts mid teens, but was fully awakened at age 20. Although at the time I still believed in the religion somewhat, I could not tolerate some major flaws.
It took many years of researching to totally leave in the spirit/mind, brainwashing ideologies are hard to kick, thankfully this site taught me much and I was finally able to leave totally!
LTF
I am glad to hear BFD is thriving! Not to long ago here, there were some ugly things said about lifestyles, and I am glad all who experienced that found a new home!
Rainbows are beautiful!
LTF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prdowbexrkm.
my family is in a nascent period of adapting to our child's .
revelation that he is an ftm transgendered person...... above all else he is still just a person...... it is a scary reality that the majority of the world.
Chickpea, you are a beautiful mother! Acceptance starts at home, if a child/youth feels loved and accepted by their family.. mother/father.. they will fare much better in this wide world we live in.
I wish you and your young son a beautiful future! It is possible! If we do not react to the bullies around us, it does not affect us, and we can thrive as who we are!
Be who we are, without explanations is the best way to be. Be proud of your little one for being strong to be who he is!
LTF
from age ten until today.
he was my friend; we used to play.
no im not really okay.
So sorry to hear of your loss Confession. Your friend will stay in your heart as long as you keep them there. Every little memory.. every moment is there for you to hold!
Wishing you Peace!
LTF
what are some things you posted here that you are now embarrassed about?
here's a classic.
it totally brought down a funny thread, and totally embarrassed me because others' reactions made me realize how dysfunctional my childhood was.
I am not ashamed of anything I have posted.. I always think first before I post.
Thank you for sharing your experiences.. hugs to you.. I grew up in a home very similar. Must be a JW thing!
LTF
“Wisdom ceases to be wisdom when it becomes too proud to weep, too grave to laugh, and too selfish to seek other than itself.”