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  In (partial ) support of Danny Hazard

  by stillajwexelder in

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  danny you have been fearless in your exposing jws for the cult they are and the harm they have done and are doing.

  keep up the good work.

  but please be careful in what you do as this board and recovering xjws need people like you who are fearless in exposing the wt.

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  Siamsa

  Proverb "If you believe all that you read and hear, you will eat all that you see"

  Wha happened,

  You are spot on with the no brainer comment but your guns are pointed the wrong direction. Prior knowledge of Danny ? All the disinformation that you know of concerning Danny has been prepared and published by Bro. Haszard himself.

  What is far more unbelievable is that 'eager mushrooms' have lapped up all the verbal diahorrea that he deposits here and at other internet sites. This shameless, egotistical self publicist may be the messiah to you but to me he is a delusional human being with a persecution complex complicated by delusions of grandeur.

  There are flies (artificial) that are created to catch fish and there are flies that are created to catch fishermen and women. I am assuming that you are not a fish and I am also telling you that you have been well and truly CAUGHT by Danny and his delusions.

  Check them out, verify, test, corroborate .................. use whatever word you prefer and then re think your position.

  Skimmer,

  Outside of this forum Danny is a no body. Inside this forum he would be a nobody but for the fact that those that kiss his butt and dine on his every 'deposit' (verbal and faecal) have conspired to confirm the delusions that torment him.

  Do not expect dyed in the wool JWS to brief themselves on the rants and identity of bitter XJWS who refuse to move on with their lives.

  If Danny ever recognises that he is hammering his head on a toilet wall, he might find peace (and a more suitable combination of his medication)

  They do not know that he exists.

  He does not recognise friends. He considers that they are persecuting him when they dissagree with him. He takes comfort from his fellow travellers who have encouraged him to the point of criminal behaviour and personal destruction.
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  Df'ing: Sister's Tears Wreck a Congregation?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm relaying this story to show all of you how disfellowshipping can be made to backfire on the .

  organization.

  i have only changed nonessential details to protect anonimity of those involved.. .

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  Siamsa

  Melatron,

  This story, if it is true has similar tones to a 'hypothetical scenario' that you posted in another thread.

  If this story is true and I have no reason to doubt that it is other than your marked reluctance to identify the location concerned.

  If ithis matter is of such burning concern to all those members (past and present) of that congregation there is no danger of losing or exposing your identity from your post. I have not read all your posts in other threads and so I do not know what information you may have revealed there that would justify your reluctance to identify the congregation concerned.

  My final point regards the walk out of the 'sisters' parents and others from the hall. If they had been pre warned (conditioned ) to the disfellowshipping, would they have reacted differently ? I am not sure if the mother of this person was more aggrieved with her daughter being Df'd or the sudden shock of being present when it was announced.

  Would she have reacted differently if she had been pre warned and managed to stay at home instead of going to the KH that day ?

  Only you can 'suggest' what they might have done.

  You are right about walking away and making new, real friends.

  The longer you wait the harder the break from the institutionalised mentality will be.
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  The transformation from evil JW to freedom-fighter XJW- Instantaneous?

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the degree of hatred being expressed by some here towards individuals in the jw cult is difficult for me to understand.. why?.

  because most of us were jehovah's witnesses at one time.. how did this transformation from "evil, disgusting, murderous, bloodthirsty" jehovah's witness to "enlightened, free, open-minded, compassionate" ex-jw take place?.

  were we bad the last day we were witnesses but good the next?.

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  Siamsa

  Changeling,

  Very well thought and intelligent post.

  Dont change ......... too much anyway .
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  The transformation from evil JW to freedom-fighter XJW- Instantaneous?

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the degree of hatred being expressed by some here towards individuals in the jw cult is difficult for me to understand.. why?.

  because most of us were jehovah's witnesses at one time.. how did this transformation from "evil, disgusting, murderous, bloodthirsty" jehovah's witness to "enlightened, free, open-minded, compassionate" ex-jw take place?.

  were we bad the last day we were witnesses but good the next?.

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  Siamsa

  Nvr,

  Great thread.

  Some years ago a fanatical fundamental quasi religious group fought the Russians in Afghanistan and were hailed as heros and freedom fighters. They and their allies committed unspeakable acts of violence to drive out the Russian 'infidel' from their land.

  Some years ago the descendents of these so called 'freedom fighters' flew planes into the Twin Towers in New York, killing people that they did not know in order to attck an organisation and were finally exposed to the world for what they were ...........................'evil terrorists'.

  The lessons learned by the U.S. could be taught to some persons in this forum.

  Terrorists have no real friends only fellow travellers who encourage them to the point of destruction.
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  Assaults Are a Bad Idea ( One exception?)

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assaulting jw's in the door to door work is very counter-productive.

  it encourages them to continue.

  believing that they are the true religion by reason of being persecuted.

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  Siamsa

  Metatron,

  What are the chance that one of the 'sheeple' will do that ?

  What are the chances that the 'sheeple' will notice ?

  You only have to look at what has happened here in THE CHURCH OF EX JEHOVAHS WITNESSES ( INTERNET BRANCH ) with the Danny incident, and how many people still saw nothing or have no opinion about what they saw ?

  If an incident actually took place such as the one you describe ACTUALLY took place in the future and YOU had something to do with it. They (the Sheeple) would say that it never happened, dont talk about it or the devil was testing them.

  Finally they would say that YOU were MAD, BAD AND DANGEROUS TO KNOW OR ASSOCIATE WITH.

  The Result ?

  No change any where.
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  Assaults Are a Bad Idea ( One exception?)

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assaulting jw's in the door to door work is very counter-productive.

  it encourages them to continue.

  believing that they are the true religion by reason of being persecuted.

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  Siamsa

  Metatron,

  It would not work because no body would see, hear or speak about it.

  Those that did see and hear about it would 'have no opinion' and refuse b) did not have two witnesses to the alledged incident

  or to speak about it because

  a) they did not have all the facts

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  c) it was caused by some outside force or agency

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  d) blame themselves for having caused the incident by having no opinion on the proceedings prior to the incident .

  Seriously though Metatron, why would making a scene advance the cause of 'victims' who place themselves in the hands of their Judge, Jury and Executioner VOLUNTARILY.

  Hand yourself in VOLUNTARILY and then complain about the sentence handed out ? Where is the sense in that ?
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  How To Repel Jehovah's Witnesses at Your Door

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the doorbell rings, and it is jehovah's witlesses.

  this is not all that unusual, but in this case you have made it clear that you do not want to be called on.

  there is a no trespassing sign prominently displayed on your door, and they know you are absolutely not interested.

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  Siamsa

  Undercover,

  A variation on your method for dealing with unsolicited telemarketing phone calls works for me.

  When faced with a call from an uninvited or unsolicited caller (who is trying to sell or save) . Answer the door and say absolutely nothing. Just keep grinning and nodding your head. Wearing a pair of large sunglasses is optional.

  Why do people who answer doors to unsolicited callers (who wish to save them or sell them something) in return try and save them or sell them something.

  Dont feed the monkies, they will only come back for more 'food' !
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  Did Anybody Besides Me CHOOSE Not to Respond??

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw danny haszard's video before it was removed.

  did anybody besides me choose not to post an opinion to.

  the many threads about it, especially those that got a chance to view it?.

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  Siamsa

  Journey on,

  Quote " Big mouth + Hot Head = Exploding Verbal Vomit"

  You are way toooooooooooooooo hard on yourself JO.

  It might be caused by your lack of opinion regarding Danny, hyper tension or defects in your genes. Either way is no point blaming any outside forces such as the Watchtower for your symptoms.

  It could have been some thing you had to drink or eat - one of them zero opinion snacks or diet opinion drinks perhaps ?

  I am not a Doctor but (in my opinion) I dont believe that it can be treated by medication alone. Good luck in your quest for a cure.
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  Did Anybody Besides Me CHOOSE Not to Respond??

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw danny haszard's video before it was removed.

  did anybody besides me choose not to post an opinion to.

  the many threads about it, especially those that got a chance to view it?.

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  Siamsa

  Journey on,

  Your approval of lfcvikings post indicates that you are indeed sitting on the fence regarding this matter. The lessons that you have been taught by the JWS have served you well.

  No opinion + No action = No back bone.
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  Did Anybody Besides Me CHOOSE Not to Respond??

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw danny haszard's video before it was removed.

  did anybody besides me choose not to post an opinion to.

  the many threads about it, especially those that got a chance to view it?.

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  Siamsa

  Journry on,

  Get off that fence and pick the splinters out of your butt and give us your opinion. Why you have no opinion will do for a start.

  You are pretty good at demanding the opinion from others.

  Have you received 'new light' that will be revealed when you decide that every one is able to receive it ?