They only baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy bOrganization . Leaving out the Holy Spirit would make it invalid, IMO.
I think this is an abomination. I think it is also blasphemy.
Does anyone else see it that way?
i am inspired to start this thread because of something i read on another thread.. burn the ships says it doesn't matter if you are baptised by an athiest or an elder, as long as it's done the right way.. so, since every religion has their spin on "the right way".... what concrete example did jesus give in this ritual?.
can any of you find any actual description of jesus dunking someone in water to baptise them?.
all i find is that jesus "baptized" by giving words of instruction.. .
They only baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy bOrganization . Leaving out the Holy Spirit would make it invalid, IMO.
I think this is an abomination. I think it is also blasphemy.
Does anyone else see it that way?
first off, i want to thank you all for being so patient with this newbie, who's become a posting fury!
now to the heart of the matter: jesus.
christians know jesus saves.
excerpt:
an esoteric group, the man who is "publicly showing himself to be a god"?
Jehovah's Witnesses are taught by this same organization that the above vows are essential for salvation as confirmed in the following quote from the January 15th 1989 Watchtower Magazine on page 15:
"Baptismal candidates must acknowledge publicly that on the basis of Jesus' sacrifice they have repented of their sins and have dedicated themselves to Jehovah. They must also understand that dedication and baptism identify them as Jehovah's Witnesses."
"The entire baptismal arrangement, including this public expression of faith, is essential for salvation."
So in these new baptismal vows the name of the Father is Jehovah. The name of the son is Jesus. In addition we now have the man whose name is:-
"God's Spirit Directed organization"
What do y'all think about this?
ok mymom's grandfather had 3 sons wyman jr, richard,and david my grandfather.i just heard a story about wyman jr that grossed me out big time.wyman jr had a daughter carol who had a half brother denny.denny and carol grew up together.carol didn't know her father.when carol was about 18 or 19 her brother denny got married.they had lived together all there lives.carols mother was dead and she had no one else to live with.so carol went to california and met her father wyman jr for the first time.she moved in with him and his second wife.carol got pregnant by her father wyman jr.. now my father told me that carol also knocked up by her own half brother/son.. her excuse for getting knocked up by her own father was that she never knew him so she didn't have a father daughter relationship with him.. my mothers family was from west virgina..
How close together were her kid's eyes? I guess incest is best.
From what I have found, genetic defects usually become pronounced in the third generation.
So that would mean her grandchildren's children may have abnormalities. Possibly albino.
Sounds to me like you should get a contract for the movie rights before you tell the rest of the details.
Hey. I would choose it in a Neilsen rating questionairre.
well that what my mil told my wife.
since she is not going to the hall, she will die at armegedon.
you have to love these loony a$$ witnesses.
Do you think she could be missing something...nutritionally?
Do you think it could all boil down to some sort of chemical imbalance with these people?
I wonder if carrot juice and wheatgrass enemas would help these folks.
I know I may come off as making fun...but I am very sorry you have to put up with this. And I do truly wonder if a lack of some nutrient in the brain keeps people from some proper reasoning function. I wish it could be so simple to fix.
i saw some mention of this in another post, but i wasn't sure if there was a topic about it.
being raised in the "truth" its always pointed out that even people who haven't been to meetings in years still come to the memorial.
ive noticed that a lot of time that is actually the case.
Before it was "Memorial" it was Passover.
Passover is a CELEBRATION OF EXODUS.
Why not return the occassion to its original meaning this year?
Finally at midnight on the 15th of Nissan all firstborn in the land of Egypt began dying, including the firstborn of King Pharaoh, exactly as Moshe had warned.
At this point, Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron and said to them: "Arise, go out from among my people, both you and the children of Israel; and go, serve God as you have said, and go, and bless me also."
Exodus
The Jews (truthseekers) departed Egypt (WTS) in haste. They assembled in groups to eat the roasted paschal lamb and the unleavened (leaven= lies) bread (matza). Then after the sun rose on the 15th day of Hebrew month of Nissan, the Jewish (truthseekers)nation rose together to leave the land of Egypt (WTS).
if this is the kind of people the watchtower teachings are producing these days, wow!.
the story is from racine, wisconsin (usa).. http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/01/31/local_news/doc47a2324aaf46e080288013.txt.
jehovah's witness husband allegedly wages holy war on catholic wifeby journal times staffthursday, january 31, 2008 2:42 pm cst.
Gee minettie!
Poor woman.
Only good to come out of this is hopefully some much needed bad publicity for the JWs and a prison term for the jerk.
please read the blog and watch the video.. http://matthewsgeneration.blogspot.com/.
here's the intro to my blog:.
if the scriptures in the bible are really true, then at some time we should be able to measure them against tangible events, which are actually occurring in our recent history.
Gopher, the well read athiest, says:
Isaiah 8 has only 22 verses.
hahahahahaha
So, Isaiahv30....are you the FDS from Bethel with the GB new light authority committee and allowed to "add your own version"?
Please do tell us the 30th New Light verse.
Do you know also the scripture for Matthew 23:14 that we have pondered?
7000 posts!!.
do i get the booby prize?.
jeff.
booby prize
word is spreading.. the elder that works with me told me that a ministerial servant in his congo asked him about the un scandal.. he confirmed to the brother that the watchtower was involved with the un but later disassociated itself and warned him that not all elders would handle his question so discreetly.. i doubt we'll see the cult disappear, but it's encouraging to see that many are waking up and are at least asking some difficult questions..
They can break their vows for a lousy library card
Why does that remind me of the story about the guy who sold his birthright for a bowl of beef stew?
tired of the hypocrisy's post got me thinking ... how many jw "kids" over the age when they should have left home still live with their parents.
i say this because i have many of those in my congregation.
fyi it looks real bad to be a older man (ie 25 and up) scrub laying up at home unless you have a outstanding circumstance i.e.
btt