never mind. :)
Posts by AnneB
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School is for fools!
by BreathoftheIndianNose inso i'm looking to go to university, as is the norm.
what are the most important things to consider choosing a school and location to study?
and what would you say are the most important things to do in order to benefit from that education and succeed in that field?
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Photo ID Badges for Quick Builds
by metaspy inhey guys, sorry i haven't been on here much lately.. i just thought i would drop by and let you know of something i received.. from when i was 12 until i was 25, i worked on quick builds.. i started out just helping out wherever they would put me - then joined an actual crew: attendants.
i used to flag for forklifts.
then i asked if i could learn how to be an electrician because the flagging was about as boring as watching grass grow.. i only worked on electric crew 1 year, back in 2006.. i just got an email from my attendant crew overseer saying that i need to submit a photo for my id badge so that i can go to quickbuilds.
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AnneB
I'd want to be really sure it was WTBTS that required the photo ID. Maybe it's just some local who has decided to play cop. Information gathering is a lucrative business; I wouldn't be too quick to comply..and I'd be asking questions of higher-ups (like the Service Desk at WT HQ).
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CRAZINESS!!! I'M BEING 'MARKED' FOR GOING TO COLLEGE!!!
by MsGrowingGirl20 inohmygosh!!!
one of my friends who is a ms told me today that the elders have 'marked' me because i'm a reg.pioneer and i've decided to go to college next semester???!
he said he can't tell me anymore but to be careful---what the hell does 'mark' mean?
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AnneB
"Consider it all joy when you meet with varous trials..." because you'll see that "Marking" can work to your benefit. You'll get to see who your real friends (if any) are. You'll get to see who thinks for him- or herself, and who follows the leader mindlessly. You'll learn who the gossips are and who has access to "elder information", they'll be the ones spreading the rumors!
Marking is usually private, that is, not announced, so you won't be shamed. At worst someone will give a talk on your particular brand of deviance and then you'll be left to your own devices.
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Dealing with elders during my mom's surgery
by noni1974 inmy mother has been working forwell over a year to have a gastric bypass and she finally got the ok from her doctor and insurance.
the date is set for this coming friday.
although, i'm not 100% sure this will happen because she was diagnosed with pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung this past week.
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AnneB
Any word on whether your mom will have surgery this week? Is everything calm with the elders?
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Have you ever played the lottery? Do you still do it?
by Iamallcool ini have never purchased lottery tickets in my life, but i have picked lottery numbers with someone in the past only one time.
he agreed to split the winnings if we win, but we didn't.
i am thinking about buying some lottery tickets, hopefully i will get very lucky.
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AnneB
It would be rendering Caesar's things to Caesar, wouldn't it? Seems OK to me!
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Are JW`s really bible based ? Can they really claim that ? In all honesty ?
by smiddy inthe religion of jehovah`s witnesses is not bible based , their beleifs are not based on what the bible says.. the bible doesnt keep changing its words , it`s basically the same today as it was centuries ago.. what the jw`s taught quoting a bible scripture in years gone by is not the same thing being taught today using the same scripture and no doubt wont be the same thing taught using the same scriptures in the future.. their beleifs are based on what interpretation the governing body gives scriptures at any given time and every time they re-interpret the scriptures everybody follows suite.the writings of russell,rutherford,knorr,franz,etc bear testimony to that fact.. the bible hasn`t changed but the teachings of jehovah`s witnesses is in a constant state of change.. so at what stage is the religion of jehovah`s witnesses" the truth" ?.
if what they taught yesteryear is not what they teach today then they have never had the truth.. if what they teach today is the truth then they never had it previously.
and one thing you can be certain of what they teach today wont be what they teach in the near future.
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AnneB
When something is "based" it only means that was the starting point; where it goes after that is up to the arranger. Sure JW's are "Bible based"; they started out using The Bible and ran with it. Where they are now is definitely not where they started, nor does it have to be, but they can still eithically make the claim. After all, they didn't begin with some other Holy Book then make a switch! They're "honest", they're just making more intelligent use of language than most of their critics and/or adherents.
Smiddy, my suggestion is that you work really hard to break the mental link between "Bible" and "scripture". Once that's accomplished there will be more work to do on "scripture", but it won't be truly productive until you really grasp that WT/JW's have (either artfully or ignorantly) combined two different constructs into one web of "Truth".
Sincere best wishes,
AB
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Carrying a gun out in service
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AnneB
I remember articles that gave sad examples of people being hurt or killed by guns kept in the home. I remember an article stating that a JW could not carry a gun as part of employment; that one was particularly memorable as there was a deputy Sheriff in our congregation and he had to choose between WT and his job.
Is it really the case that WT has not come out and said don't carry guns in field service or other WT-related activities (conventions, etc.)?
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Carrying a gun out in service
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AnneB
No gun in field service story here, how about three guns in the Kingdom Hall in somebody's book bag?
A recently widowed brother with three children (two under two years old) had eloped with a sister 30 years younger than himself (and only 5 years older than his own daughter). When they returned to the KH a publisher spotted three hand guns in his open bookbag next to his chair. After the meeting the elders mentioned to him that he couldn't bring guns into the KH and asked why he had done it. His response was that one was his, one was his new wife's, and one was his teen age daughter's. They were in case the new bride's mother came into the hall.
Wasn't there a WT article in the mid-'70's that said no baptized Witness could carry a gun?
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Did Jesus empty himself of all his knowledge when he came to Earth?
by garyneal ini learned in church this past sunday that jesus must have emptied himself of all of his knowledge when he came to earth.
this is based on luke 2:51, 52 where it states then he went down to nazareth with them and was obedient to them.
but his mother treasured all these things in her heart.
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AnneB
IMO, changing form (from spirit to human) had nothing to do with "emptying" or "knowledge"; it would be qualities that mattered (fruitage of the spirit in WT terms). That wouldn't have changed when the form changed. As a human Jesus would necessarily need to acquire earthly knowledge and wisdom, hence the statement in Luke 2. Sure, Jesus would grow in enlightment; if he started out with good qualities (fruitage of the spirit) and then learned the human version of the God story, he'd comprehend how to apply what he was taught.
As far as age, my understanding is that children were considered old enough to be accountable to God on their own merits at age 13, not that they are considered adults at that age. It seems that 30 is when adult status is attained. WT has made reference to the latter; there's a study article from the mid-'80's to that effect, something about children wanting to leave home at the legal age instead of considering scripturally (traditionally, really) that ancient Jews didn't reach adulthood until 30.
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What do you want to say in the final hours?
by juni ingoodbye 2011. you were rough sometimes, but i learned a lot, and i'll never forget you.
hello, 2012. i have great hopes for you.
please be gentle.
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AnneB
I say get your taxes filed early and don't forget to fill out your 2012 FAFSA.