Cubans are haughty and anarchic.
I totally agree.
in my experience spanish speaking brothers adopt a more submissive approach toward the society.
many of these brothers consult the elders on minor personal matters that they should be deciding for themselves.
i know this is common among witnesses in general, however, i think brothers from spanish speaking congregations take it to the extreme.
Cubans are haughty and anarchic.
I totally agree.
i am trying to choose non-specific words in order to avoid being outed, but i suppose this story probably isn't that unique.
i was really close to my dad.
he'd smile when we pointed out any inconsistencies in people's behaviors, or noticed anything that didn't make sense.
Thanks for the post. It is a good thing you have your dad. Peace.
i heard that when a "strong " jw supposedly had demon problems (it was probably just the wind in reality) but i also heard that demons affected the ones that were "weak" and were not regular at meetings etc perhaps because they had second hand furniture lol
Why did the "demons" only go after those "strongin the truth"?
For the same reason that witches that suck the blood of new-borns live only in third-world countries.
in my experience spanish speaking brothers adopt a more submissive approach toward the society.
many of these brothers consult the elders on minor personal matters that they should be deciding for themselves.
i know this is common among witnesses in general, however, i think brothers from spanish speaking congregations take it to the extreme.
In my experience Spanish speaking brothers adopt a more submissive approach toward the Society. Many of these brothers consult the elders on minor personal matters that they should be deciding for themselves. I know this is common among Witnesses in general, however, I think brothers from Spanish speaking congregations take it to the extreme. Do you agree?
ok...so this is my first time posting here...long time lurker first time poster...a bit bout my situation...i havent been to a meeting in a long time...the last was my meeting to announce my disfellowshipping...i have recently gotten an invitation to the memorial...*gasp* well it is about that time of year again...i had been fortunate enuff to be vacant when it came to previous memorials and meetings in general, but due to a sudden unforseen familial situation i was located (found) and invited to the memorial....i have accepted the invitation and my significant other (who has no jw past) will be coming with me...she knows that this part of my life was brutal and that i have tried to leave it behind me as much as is humanly possible...she is a big reason i have been able to move past a lot of my "issues" with religion, family etc etc blah blah blah...i have gotten past a lot of those issues.... my question i think is...am i making a mistake in going?
i have no belief in their drivel and no desire to go back to that "dogs vomit" but due to my semi-newfound appreciation for life and life after jw'ness i am trying to patch stuff up with my jw family...least as much as i can...if such a thing is even possible...my jw family is actually treating me with some degree of human kindness and i feel as though i should at least try to rebuild some semblance of "family" i dunno....but i am going to the memorial....i must be nucking futz...anyhow...thoughts?
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I do not know your particular situation in detail, but I guarantee you the moment will come in which you will get tired or pleasing others.
i'm looking to put together a collection of scanned watchtower / awake articles and extracts of other watchtower publications to show non-jws (and maybe even some current jws) that highlight the control issues of the society.. .
i am thinking along the lines of the famous 1996 article with the caption "do you wisely destroy apostate material ?
i will obviously upload the collection when it is complete.. .
May 22, 1994 Awake! magazine showing photos of 26 children who "put god first" by refusing blood tranfusion. It glorifies death of children. See http://www.ajwrb.org
i've been a faded jw for 10 years i left because of my failed first marriage, i'm no hypocrite and realised i had left completely so i embraced the world and dived in, only christmas and birthdays i could not get into, they were too foreign to me having never celebrated them, like if i suddenly tried to do ramadan or something like that.. 1/ all the criticisms of the people in the truth you say on here, i've found in the world, warts and all only in the world nothing holds them back from being utterly horrible to you.. 2/ i got stabbed by a worldly boyfriend, i got married 2 times of my own choosing to men outside the truth, the first smoked and was an alcoholic, the second gambled every penny we had and defrauded me out of money after we separated, 2 divorces later i am currently pregnant and a single mum since current boyfriend decided kids was to much of a responsibility and he needed his freedom and i was 'too selfish to expect him to give up his life'.. 3/ parents-in-law!
i have been shunned by them as equal to anything you accuse witness families of and for the silliest of reasons, i had a disabled son and his grandparents said they wanted nothing to do with him because they didn't want to become attached in case he died.. 4/ i miss the honest friendships of the truth, i had friends of all ages from 14 to 80 years old and they genuinely cared for me, many trying to keep me in the faith a long time after i left but i was determined to fade so moved away completely, but i find friendships in the world so shallow in comparison and very hard to sustain :( i've never been a drinker and sometimes thats what friendship means you being a companion for them to goto pub with.. 5/ my recent boyfriend was in a christian religion, i thought why not find out about it, harvest churches if you ever heard of them, unfortunately it still hasn't stop him leaving me pregnant and alone and when i said to him how does he clear that with god, he replies "as long as i repent it doesn't matter" it's like he has a "get out of jail free card" for any wrong-doing in the bible, this is so alien to me and my witness trained conscience.. 6/ i recently out of frustration tried looking into atheism and joined their forums, it wasn't fun, they are as bombastic and arrogant as their religious counterparts can be from any religion, they make a religion out of not believing in god, it's very weird they talk of saving people from believing in god and offer nothing to replace it.
they said to me "be happy you are in reality now and enjoy it" and i thought "well if this is reality i've had enough of it".
I agree with those who have suggested professional counseling. Going back is only going to expose you to more abuse and control. A troubling question we must always ask ourselves is up to what point our suffering and failures are the product of the bad choices we make.
hey it's been awhile since i've left--almost 5 years now!
i haven't visited this site for quite a while now.
i was never dfd, but i have little contact with anything to do with jws.
There is in fact a policy in place. The WT constantly reminds Elders to visit those who have become inactive. But most body of Elders are lazy and do not do their job.
not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but behold the january 8th awake!, 2008, pages 26-27;.
are customs?.
customs are practices that apply to social life and are common to a particular place or class of people.
I have given up. This believe, as many others do not depend on reasoning. It may even be said that the more reasons you have in favor of a given point, the less believable it is for regular Witnesses, since logic and reasoning are worldly methods of comprehending.
the level of arrogance of the watch tower has no limits.
in genesis 18:23-33 we find abraham trying to reason or even negotiate with god.
this is something you cannot even dream of doing with the governing body.
The level of arrogance of the Watch Tower has no limits. In Genesis 18:23-33 we find Abraham trying to reason or even negotiate with God. This is something you cannot even dream of doing with the Governing Body. In many instances, you send a letter with a simple question to Brooklyn and they advice the Elders of your congregation of your inquisitive nature. A simple publisher trying to reason with the overwhelmingly powerful Governing Body? Never! If you have questions or any reasoning to do, direct it to a lower authority: Jehovah.