Does being an apostate excuse me?
Maddie
for those who no longer get your monthly km, i thought i'd just share a little "encouraging" tidbit from the material scheduled for this week's service meeting (tm).. there's a 20 minute "regurgitate the paragraph" session entitled "pioneer or die" or something like that.
i can't remember the exact title right now, but it was one of the most blatant "beat the sheep.
you're not good enough" articles i've seen in quite a while.
Does being an apostate excuse me?
Maddie
what are your favorite jw guilt trips?
mine are: "you hurt my feelings when you say things like that" and "oh i pray to jehovah, that you will come back, what did we do wrong with you"
Your making Jehovah's heart sad
Maddie
do you think they know its not the truth???
elders, for example, through jcs are privied to info about the jw involvement with the un, 607 bce, etc, etc... .
people who actually do study a lot, you think they figured it out???.
I don't think elders in general know much at all - just my opinion
Maddie
as 1975 approached, we began to hear the preliminary murmurs of denial from the society rather than any honest admissions or apologies for their dreadful mistake.
finally, i remember sitting at the watchtower study one sunday listening to the brothers and sisters parroting the information from the study article and innocently taking all of the blame for misinterpreting what the society had said about 1975. it was the first of several occasions when i longed to jump up from my seat, run to the podium, and argue for the apparently forgotten truth.
instead, i sat there and thought how much the society was like the scribes and pharisees in jesus dayburdening the people with heavy loads that they were not willing to budge with their finger (matthew 23:4).
I hate the borg!!!!!!!
Maddie
my family does not speak to me.
i have no problem with that as they are pains in the ass.
but during my tenure as a jw, i noticed that differant families would treat their df'd members differantly, even if they didn't live in the same household, often inviting them over for dinner, etc.
I noticed this inconsistency a lot and was told that the JW's who still associate with DF'd family shouldn't be. That was it!
Maddie
yay - my sister in law gave birth to a beautiful little baby girl on sunday - tiny little thing, only 2.7 kgs, but absolutely precious... now i know i have two of my own and would probably go insane if i had anymore, but god i am so broody... .
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(((((((((((((((Princess Daisy Boo)))))))))))))
Congratulations on being an aunty. Its definately being broody thats making you want to give all that advice. I went abit like that when my sister had a baby. Blame it on the hormones.
Maddie
i thought most of them were alright but a couple really sucked!
When I first became a JW I was quite in awe of the elders and assumed they were all such righteous and loving men Later on I began to realise otherwise of course, so I thought some were kind and some were nasty specimens.
Maddie
i have become aware since being on jwd that many of us who converted to jw's as adults suffer from feelings of guilt and self-recrimination for being so badly deceived.
i for one sometimes have the desire to punish myself for becoming a jw, being instrumental in my son being in their clutches, and the pain that is caused by it all.
i have started to read "releasing the bonds" by steven hassan and i hope and pray that in time i will be more able to help my family leave the jw cult.
Outofthebox - I remember hearing about going back at another time and something may have changed to make people listen to the "good news". Little did of the reasons behind it but you are right of course.
Nvrgnbk - Thank you so much for your post. That's the evil of cults like the JW's - they exploit the natural and make it unnatural. I so wish I understood and was aware of all this sooner in my life.
Maddie
i have become aware since being on jwd that many of us who converted to jw's as adults suffer from feelings of guilt and self-recrimination for being so badly deceived.
i for one sometimes have the desire to punish myself for becoming a jw, being instrumental in my son being in their clutches, and the pain that is caused by it all.
i have started to read "releasing the bonds" by steven hassan and i hope and pray that in time i will be more able to help my family leave the jw cult.
Mr M - I used to think that it was weakness but you are right about having an inner strength. Some of us overcome very traumatic things throughout our lives and manage to overcome them. Thank you.
SSPO - Some of us are idealistic and are drawn to the vision of Utopia the JW's portray. Like you I was shown all the answers to my questions from the NWT bible and didn't check anything out elsewhere and it wasn't so available then either.
Worldly Andre - I can't say for sure why my parents joined, I think that maybe the 70's were just a bit crazy and people either joined Peoples Temple or Watchterror society.
Perhaps it was the 1975 carrot they had dangled in front of them that made their mind up.
Worldtraveller - I was looking for the truth, and all I got was a big steaming pile. Same here, I thought I had found the real thing
Snowbird - I had the same thing during my childhood. I think it gives us a strong desire to search for answers to make the world a better place
Maddie
i have become aware since being on jwd that many of us who converted to jw's as adults suffer from feelings of guilt and self-recrimination for being so badly deceived.
i for one sometimes have the desire to punish myself for becoming a jw, being instrumental in my son being in their clutches, and the pain that is caused by it all.
i have started to read "releasing the bonds" by steven hassan and i hope and pray that in time i will be more able to help my family leave the jw cult.
R Crusoe - They steal our spirituality and keep it prisoner - thats how I think about it.
Maddie