If they are unable to know what they are doing because of senile dementia etc then of course not. If this were the case then it would be the same as baptising a baby who had no knowledge of what was happening to them.
Maddie
we all know that jw's don't baptize babies, but they will baptize them when they become a little older, like 9 or 10 in some cases.
my question is the following.
if they don't baptize children because they are too young, could they refuse someone that's too old?.
If they are unable to know what they are doing because of senile dementia etc then of course not. If this were the case then it would be the same as baptising a baby who had no knowledge of what was happening to them.
Maddie
we all know that jw's don't baptize babies, but they will baptize them when they become a little older, like 9 or 10 in some cases.
my question is the following.
if they don't baptize children because they are too young, could they refuse someone that's too old?.
No it doesn't matter if someone is 109 years old, they can still get baptised as far as I understand it.
Maddie
this came up in conversation yesterday.
me and my brother went to an all boys secondary school to complete our education and both of us hated it.
however, our whole school experience was skewed by our cult upringing - especially with the 'end being just around the corner'.. our - never dubbed - cousins on the other hand went to an all girls school and as much as they loved the boys they claim that their girls only schooling was a positive thing for them.. surely it's just an unnatural situation though?.
There is undeniable proof that girls achieve much higher results in schools that are only for girls.
Maddie
i don't feel comfortable living as an atheist.
i believe the world is far to complex and humans are too incredible to have just occurred.
therefore, if i was to attend a church, which one should i consider?
Experiment until you find a church tha you feel comfortable with. The important difference for me is the understanding that the important "Truth" isn't found in any church but in my personal relationship with God.
Maddie
i have just finished reading the book of romans and i have a question ?
a person cannot please god unless he is controlled by the spirit.
(rom 8:8,9) nor can he put to death the misdeeds of the body except by the spirit (rom 8:13) the next verse (v14) then tells us that all who are led by gods spirit are gods sons.in fact they are adopted as his children.however,according to the wts , these verses only apply to the annointed.so,my question is this.if only the annointed are led by gods spirit,whose spirit leads the "other sheep" ?
Yes it all seems so clear once the veil of the WT has been removed.
Maddie
this is my first christmas following the complete fade, but i have to maintain the fade.. hence, i have been uncomfortable with saying "merry christmas.
" the closest i have .
come this year is "same to you" and "enjoy your holiday.".
I did say Merry Christmas to lots of people and tried to push any JW indoctrination from my mind. There is a slight niggle about saying it but I won't let it get the better of me.
Maddie
my father was never a jehovahs witness.
(thank god).
but this is what he now lovingly asked me after the christmas meal.. what are you?.
clueless - Lovely sentiments and tribute to your dad. He sounds like a great person.
Maddie
...but don't know where to start looking for a good church to attend?.
or maybe feel too guilty with leftover jw emotions to even think about going to church at all?.
There isn't anything wrong with going to a church IMO. I now realise that whichever one it is, it won't have exclusive rights to God and is not a requirement for salvation.
Maddie
amazingly enough my jw sister ( very self righteous ex-gilead graduate ) called me for the first time in 3 years asking for her own 32 year old inactive daughters phone number .
her husband's mom died last friday , my brother -in -laws mom , and she said she had not talked with her daughter, my niece , in 5 years.
my sister dissapproved of her daughter getting a law degree at a university in california and shunned her for 5 years because her daughter stopped going to meetings to get an education !
You are right Mr. Flipper about the dual personality present in cult members. I have experienced it in my son and it always confused me before I understood what was happening. Sometimes he seems like his "real self" and then will go into the JW personality. Its not always just what he says because his whole demeanour seems to change too. I have ordered "Releasing the Bonds" and hope it will help me to get him out of the WT.
Maddie
with in the next week and a half(maybe sooner) there is going to be a very insightful post about the borg.
merry christmas every one, and a happy new year.
The suspense is killing me!
Maddie