There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is a proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is comdemnation before investigation
Maddie
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is a proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is comdemnation before investigation
Maddie
i posted this on coco's daily journal thread, but i'm not sure how many of you read that.
(if you never have, i encourage you to look at it and maybe share a bit our your daily life with us.).
i found the whole thing totally bizarre!
Bumble Bee - Very bizarre experience ! It would probably of made me paranoid because I always seem to get searched at the airport.
Maddie
catch it, it's some wild stuff, like watching a bethelite after a talk.
ugh!.
http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see.
Tom Cruise looked and sounded demented! I found the video very bizarre and scarey to be honest. His eyes had a starey wild look and his laugh was hysterical. Nothing he said made any sense either.
Maddie
it has dawned on me that i have not become the christian that i thought i would when leaving the jw religion.. i don't deny the power of faith, i retain faith in something beyond just the here and now, or maybe i retain credulous belief that way?
i have discovered that my religion was bad - then i discovered that the 'holy writ' upon which it is founded is pretty leaky also.
then i discovered that most "holy writings" are just as porous.
I understand where you are right now Jeff as it is a struggle for me too. I guess it is a spiritual journey for all of us when we leave the JW's and I for don't know where I am going to end up. I had a personal experience several years ago at a time when I had almost given up on life. I was at rock bottom mentally, physically and spiritually because of alcoholism and being DF. I really did believe at the time that I had lost everything and that Jehovah had given me up to Satan. In my despondency and all alone I cried out to God for help. In that moment I felt a peace come over me and I went into a deep sleep. When I woke up the craving for alcohol had left me and two women that I knew took me to an AA meeting later that day and it was the beginning of my recovery.
Now I am sure people have many opinions on why I had that experience and what it might of been and I don't really know. I just wanted to share it with you because there are so many things that don't make sense and can't be proved but that doesn't mean they're not real.
Maddie
so, my neighbor comes home from his family visit and gives me a gift for christmas, it was belated.
he had visited cuba and gave me a hand carved peace sign, you know the kinds that look like a human hand?.
i was thinking about my childhood, where we used to see those things in the mall and mom would say, "we don't make signs with our hands, do we children?
Dawg - I agree that everyone is special in there uniqueness but no one is better than anyone else. The "I am better than you" attitude is just vanity and a desire to feel superior to other people. We all have the ability to share, care and love others as ourselves then this is special just as you say.
Maddie
i'm scared everyday that i will lose my husband to this cult.. i'm scared everyday that i will offend my dear friend because of my bitterness with this cult.. i'm scared everyday that my husband will choose to go back to studying and become active again.. i'm scared everyday that my life will crumble after working so hard to build the wonderful relationship that i have.. i'm scared everyday that his family will eventually say that they cannot associate with him anymore unless he goes back.. i'm scared everyday he'll choose.
i'm scared everyday that i'll never have a family of my own because of this stupid cult.
i won't bring innocent lives into this shit.. i'm scared everyday that i'll give up.. i'm scared evertday that he'll be gone.. i'm scared they will convince him.
4mylove - I know what it is like to live with the fear of losing someone we love to the WT. It can eat away at us and takes away the joy of living, so try not to think too much about what might or might not ever happen. It is sometimes very hard to do, especially if you have a mind that goes round and round like mine does but try to concentrate on "today" and enjoy living it. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery is a saying I heard and it makes sense.
Maddie
i no longer know how to pray.
who do i pray to?
i no longer worship the god of jw's, jehovah.
megaflower - Well if you want to be able to pray but don't know what name to use, perhaps you could use the prayer that Jesus gave and just say "Father". He seemed to think it was okay.
Maddie
now that's god.
i did not post this to cause any controversy, or to take up my soapbox.
i just found it and thought it lovely to share.. jeff .
Jeff - I know I am sentimental, but I thought that was really beautiful and moving. Thank you.
Maddie
im fairly new to this site & just wanted to make my presence known.
ive been away from the borg for nearly a year now (whoo hoo) without anyone noticing (so much for that brotherly luuuuuuurrvvve) been reading some of the posts & wow.
some stuff i already knew about, but a lot i did not.. was wondering how many of you are from the uk?
Hello and welcome Superslave As you can see I'm from the UK.
Maddie
this is my first time getting to do this.
so i would like to introduce my friend he is new to the board and is reading c of c right now and so welcome please thedoctor
Welcome to TheDoctor
Looks like you have a welcoming committee too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maddie