Posts by ldrnomo

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US denomination survey: JWs among religions with biggest increase

by MrMonroe in

the blindness spreads.. as reported here:.

church membership for more than a third of the nation's largest churches took a hit last year while non-orthodox christian churches are on the rise, a new report on denominations finds.the southern baptist convention, the nation's second largest denomination, reported a .42 percent decline in membership to 16,160,088 members, according to national council of churches' 2011 yearbook of american & canadian churches, released monday.. still dominating the list of the nation's top 25 mainline churches is the catholic church, which posted a .57 growth at 68.5 million members.. but a few church bodies, regarded as cults by some christians, continue to increase in size.. ranked 20th in size, the jehovahs witnesses denomination reported a 4.37 percent gain in membership, with 1,162,686 members total.

seventh-day adventist church, which didn't make the top 25 list for at least the past two years, squeezed in the list this year in the 24th spot.

ldrnomo

The increase has got to be primarily within the existing membership, IE, children starting to publish. New ones coming in just can't be that many.

They're hatching their own.

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HAD 2JW'S AT THE DOOR YESTERDAY.

by xbro in

felt so sorry for them,i questioned the 1914 date and they schpeeled out the crap theyre told,i asked what they personally thaught about it,that stumped them as they dont have the remit to think for thewmselves.. i then offered them the 'crisis of concience ' book and they damn near ran out the garden!

poor people wish i could help them..

ldrnomo

You realise they'll be dining out on that encounter for years to come. There's nothing like the frisson of excitement that comes from meeting a real apostate in the flesh.

That's so true. Depending on how exciting they make the story of their encounter with you, they will be considered war hero's. The one's who were confronted with the dark side and stayed in the troof to tell about it.

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Louis L'Amour

by White Dove in

just getting into his books and i'm hooked.

he was a fantastic author.

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ldrnomo

Loved "The Walking Drum"

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Here's an update to what has happened since I used the words, "Big News," five years ago

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/103353/1/the-news-is-bigger-than-dateline-bbc-cbc-etc.

as many of you know, i made the "big news" statement when kerry louderback-wood's scholarly article about watch tower's blood misrepresentation that was published in the journal of church and state was just about to be published.

i was excited about it because lives were at stake and weve never had such an article before to be able to use to show how the watch tower misrepresents the blood issue through its literature and people die because of it.

ldrnomo

It was that article in the newspaper that talked about Kerry Louderback-Wood's tort on blood transfusions. After that I started asking questions of the other elders which eventually got me removed and got me looking beyond the Watchtower publications. It was a turning point in my life.

LD

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Is it just human nature to gossip or are JW's worse? Feelings are hurt....

by mamalove in

jw
friends

it is so strange how once you distance yourself from your kingdom hall and friends, that they find it necesary to discuss and contemplate your departure and put out all kinds of statements that simply are not true.. i am licking my wounds today because some kind of nasty things were said about me to a friend of mine who is df, from her ubber righteous sister.

it was via text, so it was there to read.

the thing i can't figure out is i have nothing to do with this woman.

ldrnomo

Mrs. Jones says it very simply in one sentence:

Folks gossip to make themselves feel better about their sorry lives.

JW's have sorry lives so when someone leaves their sorry lives they dream up some kind of story that makes the one who has left out to have a sorry life even though often times those that have left are much happier. So the gossip runs rampant. They also gossip about those who are in who aren't real uber Jdubs and they gossip about those in the world and they even gossip about those that are more active then they are and they gossip about the world and about life and.....

YES, I THINK JW's are worse but of course maybe we're are just gossiping here LOL

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Are you a fader, Df'd, DA'd, or Still In?

by brotherdan in

i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.

i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.

no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.

ldrnomo

Wish I could DA but I've got close family still in so I'm a fader did a quick fade starting in 2007 and haven't been to a meeting since except for a memorial.

I guess you could say I've totally faded out they've pretty much shunned me though not formally.

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How do I get them to leave me alone?

by Mr. Falcon in

why does every ex-elder who went through so much turmoil while being an elder always whine to me about how much it sucked, yet when i mention that i don't want to be one, they suddenly get all nostalgic and tell me what a blessing it is to serve as an e-man?.

elder.. period.. maybe i might have a change of heart one day if they actually require these men to have some sort of actual psychological/communication training or if they start handing out paychecks.

but until then, i respectfully decline.. .

ldrnomo

Tell them your not really sure you agree with the blood doctrine as it now stands. If they ask why, tell them that you wonder why certain parts of blood can be taken based on YOUR conscience yet other parts of blood cannot be taken regardless of what YOUR conscience says. Then tell them, you'll let them know if you change your mind.

That was what got me wiped off the books as an elder. Best thing that ever happened to me because that's what helped me to realize it was a cult.

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On being reasonable

by Lion Cask in

jw
friends

recap.

non-jw man with jw wife.

she joined after we were married, against my wishes.

ldrnomo

Why should you always be the one that has to compromise for their benefit ? If it was the other way around would they allow or even ask you to say a blessing over a dinner ? Do they accomandate any of your personal beliefs ?

This is such a good point troubled mind.

I often noticed how my family and neighbors tried to do things to please us when we were in the cult. They were always careful not to say "merry christmas" or "happy birthday" they would ask me to say a prayer at dinners and they were always careful not to say things they thought might offend us. Yet those in the cult never go out of their way to do the same.

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