So can somebody fire up their WT library cd-rom and post the definitions as presented in the Insight books? I've only got a mac now so I can't use my copy and I don't remember where I stored all my old books.
marmot
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Is "the Great Tribulation" now interchangeable with "Armageddon"?
by marmot init seems that in the latest editions of the wt "the great tribulation" is being referred to as something that only the witnesses will survive.
for example, here are some references pulled from the upcoming members-only study edition: .
page 4, par.
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Is "the Great Tribulation" now interchangeable with "Armageddon"?
by marmot init seems that in the latest editions of the wt "the great tribulation" is being referred to as something that only the witnesses will survive.
for example, here are some references pulled from the upcoming members-only study edition: .
page 4, par.
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marmot
It seems that in the latest editions of the WT "the Great Tribulation" is being referred to as something that only the witnesses will survive.
For example, here are some references pulled from the upcoming members-only study edition:
Page 4, par. 1 - "We have a serious responsibility towards the people around us. The decisions they make now will mean life or death during 'the great tribulation.' (Rev 7:14)"
Page 5, par. 7 - "But those who remain in Babylon the Great and who continue to reject Bible standards will not be spared through 'the great tribulation.' (Rev 7:14)"
Page 23, par. 14 - "Hence, after 1935 the thrust of the preaching work turned to the gathering of a 'great crowd,' those whom the apostle John saw in vision and who would survive 'the great tribulation.' (Rev 7:9,10,14)"
ibid, par. 16 - "We can also believe the prophetic Word that the ever-growing 'great crowd' will prove itself faithful. Soon, it will 'come out of the great tribulation' brought upon Satan's world and will joyfully move on into God's new world."
Page 26, par. 10 - "We know that Jehovah will do as he has promised--preserve the great crowd alive through the great tribulation."
It was always my understanding that the great tribulation was a time of testing before the war of Armageddon, for witnesses to prove their faith and endurance to god. It was always Armageddon that was supposed to be the big slaughter that only witnesses escaped.
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Personality Profile Test.
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/whatamilike/index.shtml.
i was adjudged a go-getter personality.
takes maybe 10 minutes to do.. jeff .
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Peacemaker.
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This girl "wants" to die.
by Hiddenwindow inshe was given a blood transfusion and her condition improved, but she is appearing in court to petition her own death.
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here is indoctrination for you.. http://winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2007/10/26/4606617-sun.html.
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marmot
This brings up a very disturbing aspect of the witness "hope" namely is it better to die young but faithful or live a long productive life?
Many times when I still considered myself in "the truth" I found myself wishing to get cancer or some other incurable disease, or to get run over by a bus or something, because if you die faithful then you'll be resurrected into paradise. Living a long life seems like a pointless exercise in suffering when you think about it in that light.
Since the Bible also says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, what's the point of waiting anyway? Why not all commit mass suicide and skip the queue?
Jehovah's witnesses aren't really living at all, they're just "holding out" until Armageddon. When the paradise comes THEN they'll start living.
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Saw best jw friend at club...didn't shun me
by tall penguin inback in may i went to a nightclub and ended up seeing one my best jw friends, a friend who refused to say goodbye when i was in the process of disassociating because he was so upset with me.
we'd known each other since we were kids.
our moms were close.
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He probably didn't shun you because of a guilty conscience. Going to clubs around this neck of the woods definitely earmarks you as "bad association" and you can expect a back-room discussion and a local needs talk if you're ever ratted out.
I personally dislike clubs so it was never a problem for me, but the other "young ones" received earfuls of "counseling" on the matter. -
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This girl "wants" to die.
by Hiddenwindow inshe was given a blood transfusion and her condition improved, but she is appearing in court to petition her own death.
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here is indoctrination for you.. http://winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2007/10/26/4606617-sun.html.
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I was in Winnipeg when this girl first went into the hospital and it was downright macabre how everyone was treating her as if she had died already (this was BEFORE the forced transfusion).
I wonder if she feels cheated out of an express ticket to paradise?
As an added weird coincidence, the Winnipeg Sun SUNshine girl in that link (the redhead Cayleigh) is someone I worked with last summer. We both sold hideously expensive vacuum cleaners with a bunch of other young people. Small freaking world. -
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The Screws are tightening! Fear is paramount for mind control to work!
by Gill ini have recently been noticing my mother's and other relatives' increased fervent and frantic activity in the wt society.. i wondered why they are becoming so fanatical and decided to take an indepth look at the latest watchtowers.. i believe there is a very worrying trend in the wt society now for a apocalyptic zeal that borders on fanaticism and now the wt is tightening the screws with its demand for 'cultic obedience.'.
in the past i wondered whether another 'jonestown,' or similar scenario, was possible, but though the wt may well not ask its members to take their own lives i wonder what the wtbts will ask them to do.. notice these quotes from the december 15th watchtower for 2007:.
page 18 paragraph 15:.
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Yeah, it's really sad because my mother is losing her mind because I told her I don't believe the WTBTS anymore. She breaks down into tears and says "Don't turn your back on Jehovah, we are SO close to the end!"
I hate seeing my mom like this. She should be enjoying the years of her life, not living in petrified fear.
The only thing I'm going to say to everyone when/if I'm forced to DA is: "You are all going to die of old age, so am I (barring unforeseen occurrence). If the Bible says there is a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous and 'the wages sin pays is death' then I'll let god sort things out after that." -
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Someone Just Asked Me to Marry Him!
by Magick ini opened my myspace and received this letter:.
hello sister ,.
hope to find you in good health am a jehovah wittness xxxxxx by name i saw your profile, am single looking for a good jehovahs wittness sister to be my life patiner, am black african if u are in trested please contact me here to see my pictures [email protected], or call me +xxxxxxxx.
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The poor grammar and sentence structure makes it sound like one of those Nigerian scams.
I wouldn't be surprised if some con artist has figured out a way to tap into this. -
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JW Stance On Joining The YMCA
by Justitia Themis ini have been emailing with several jws in my congregation about the osce issue.
i pointed out the hypocrisy of not allowing us to join the ymca, but then having osce ngos.
one sister emailed me that a sister in her congregation just received a letter from the society stating that it is ok for her to to join the y. she needed to join for rehab purposes.
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Back when I was shopping around for a gym, my Gilead graduate Uncle actually suggested the YMCA because it was closer and more convenient, but when I mentioned that to one of my pioneer friends she looked at me as if I had just had sex with the pope. She said that joining the YMCA was tantamount to going to a church of christendom because they keep membership records that show you as being one of them.
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Wow, it just clicked. I'm agnostic!
by marmot ini honestly don't think i've ever been this happy in my life.
of course, i've got bipolar ii so i might just be edging on a bout of hypomania but i'm good at taking my med so this could very well be genuine!
i'm so excited at the new look on life this has given me.
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marmot
After more careful thought on the matter, I guess I am an atheist after all. Or at least an agnostic leaning really far towards atheism.