Resurrecting this thread because I never knew transfusions were a conscience matter until so recently. This, coupled with Orphan Crow's following the money trail for bloodless medicine companies, has left me profoundly shaken even though I've been out of the org for close to a decade.
marmot
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Blood Transfusions First A Personal Matter Then Became A Disfellowshipping Offense
by baldeagle infor a number of years in jw history it was taught that having a blood transfusion was a matter of personal choice that an individual made between him/her and god.
it was not to be anybody elses business.
blood transfusions were frowned upon by the wts leadership (wt july 1, 1945 pages 199-200).
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9 dead in ‘hate crime’ shooting at historic African American church in Charleston
by pronomono inhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/17/white-gunman-sought-in-shooting-at-historic-charleston-african-ame-church/.
this is such a shame.
i've always thought about things like this happening because of how crazy some people are, especially in regards to religion.
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I'm glad at least SOME news outlets are labelling this as an act of terrorism. If it was a muslim shooter the whole damn city would be on lockdown. -
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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate
by OrphanCrow inthis interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.
lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.
so who is lorenz reibling?
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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate
by OrphanCrow inthis interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.
lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.
so who is lorenz reibling?
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Wow, I always gave JWs the benefit of the doubt, thinking they were just well-intentioned religious bumblers. This is, to quote so many others, chilling. -
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JW terminology
by punkofnice inparadise earth after god kills all non jws.
paradise earth after god kills all non jws.
paradise earth after god kills all non jws.
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Nice writeup. I used to attend a sign language group and non-witness deaf people told me that a bunch of their signs are WT-specific gibberish. -
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I'm okay with the "fruitage of the spirit."
by cappytan inthough i now consider myself a secular buddhist, i just realized today that i'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by paul as the "fruitage of the spirit.".
the only one i take issue with is "faith" in the context of religion.
what are your thoughts on the matter?.
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The fruitage of the spirit were a constant source of anguish for me as a witness because I tried to put them into practice yet rearely did I see others attempt to do the same.
In the end, though, they're just general platitudes that can apply to any moral code. The bible doesn't have exclusive domain over morality, as others have posted here.
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My Story of Waking Up - in retrospect
by cappytan inso, many of y'all know bits and pieces of my story of waking up, but i thought it might be nice to have it all in one place.. i was baptized at 11, auxiliary pioneered every summer, regular pioneer at 17, ministerial servant by 19, then went to bethel for a year.. i always had minor doubts from time to time, but nothing serious.
always dismissed doubts and decided to "just have faith.".
after leaving bethel, i was never really firing on all cylinders "spiritually speaking.
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I totally know the feeling of guilt followed by a zeal to research everything, I went through a similar process with the Revelation book. My aunt and uncle are long time multi-generational witnesses that happened to have an amazing library of old literature that I had never seen in person before, and given the society's Orwellian erasing of its own history, I had never had access to through the WT library or my kingdom hall library.
What a revelation, pun not intended! After reading an original issue of The Finished Mystery I knew I was in a crackpot religion, what a bunch of malarkey! Book after book, I was exposed to the false teachings and old light that nobody talked about anymore. My studies at University sealed the deal, and I'm now a dyed in the wool atheist.
Congrats on your awakening, Cappytan.
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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A big part of my awakening was learning in Native History classes in university of the existence of mammoth kill sites in North America with spear points still embedded in the bone. These sites are reliably dated to almost 13,000 years ago. I'm Native American and I couldn't wrap my head around the idea that the flood supposedly wiped out the mammoths (as the watchtower says) yet there were clearly people hunting them. Would Jehovah(tm) be such an unloving bastard as to wipe out an entire people who never even knew what was coming? Unless Noah magically "preached" in North America, too.
Of course, subsequent classes in geology, atmospheric science and anthropology wiped out any remaining shred of belief in a global flood.
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With all the WT's eschatology and prophetic interpretation, why is there no mention of Islam?
by marmot inyou'd think that the third major abrahamic religion would be of interest to the witnesses and their fanciful interpretation of just about anything written in the bible, especially with the white-hot relevance islam has in current affairs and the middle east.
not only that, islam had a huge influence on european history, with conquering armies and direct control over jehovah's supposed holy city of jerusalem.. american christian fundamentalists trip over themselves trying to connect all the dots in scripture so why hasn't the watchtower society?
laziness?
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Just read an article on vice.com talking about how ISIS and their Islamic caliphate in Syria and Iraq is here to stay.
Still not a peep from the WT on this. In the old days they'd be falling over themselves to assign prophetic significance to this. Today they're a bunch of wusses more interested in little Sophia's ice cream money and how tight your trousers are.