A big issue for me when I disconnected from the Witnesses when I was 30 years old was I didn't have a long term plan for my life. Even for me, the constant Witness doom and gloom indoctrination took it's toll. I lived my life for the short term. I had a constant feeling of impending doom.
It's hard to work for a long term goal when inside I feel like I'm gonna be struck dead any minute.
Actually the things I did right were accidental. I worked hard, but without direction. In my early 30's I started to get a business education. Growing up a Witness, I didn't have any practical models. My dad saw success as failure and he worked to stay below the line of poverty. In that context, my dad modeled what I didn't want to be.
I lacked real heroes and teachers. Witnesses taught me that success is a sin and education is dangerous. My good luck was finding good mentors in business. They taught me basics. I started to read . . . a lot. I was fascinated with the history of Henry Ford. I read everything I could find about Ford the man.
I took college courses that helped me in business. I went to every demonstration and seminar I could go to. I took CPA courses. Later I look commercial real estate management, investment and brokerage classes. Now I define success as friends, security as health, and happiness as comfort.
Anybody who says money won't buy happiness doesn't know where to shop.
garybuss
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For the faders and inactive - is it possible to be a regular Joe?
by truthseeker indid you ever wish you could be an average joe and forget everything you knew about the watchtower society and its teachings?.
what do i mean by average joe?.
for those not familiar with the expression, "the terms average joe, average jane, and joe shmoe are used primarily in the united states to refer to the average american.".
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Can't speak with me, unless they need something
by Stan Conroy inafter many, many years outside of the jw world, my elderly parents finally decided to give me an ultimatum.
i either rejoin the jw's or they will never speak with me again.
apparently my brother is going to get the same choice.
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You wrote: "Does anyone know if they really have a loop hole like that? Seems an awful lot like "having your cake and eating it too" so it's probably true."
It's true. They can also make contact for family emergencies (such as storm emergencies, illnesses, and deaths), as well as business. Witnesses spell business - "bu$ine$$".
It's called fractional shunning. It only works if the shunner and the shunnee agree to the terms. The Watch Tower Corporation is the third party beneficiary to the agreement . . . as always. -
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Brother Marley Cole has been "harvested."
by Nathan Natas in"he's dead, jim.
friday, 17 april 2009. fern led the way in may 2002.. marley was used by the wtb&ts, just like the rest of the great crowd.. the wtb&ts wanted a book to counter schnell's "watchtower slave," and so marley wrote that "jehovah's witnesses: the new world society" in 1955 with the full blessing of nathan knorr.
the book sold well because dubs were told from the podium of their kingdom halls to go out and buy that book.. but a couple of years later, in 1957, it was a different story.
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garybuss
I'm gonna read up on that mule ride. There might be a connection to them jack-asses that I know here.
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From 'Everlasting Life' to just a few more years. How did you handle the realisation that you WOULD die?
by nicolaou inthe thing is, a lot of us thought we'd never die.
do you comprehend what a truly massive mind-fuck that is?
when i was embroiled in doubts and knew i was heading 'out of the truth' i remember waves of nausea hitting me.
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garybuss
How did you handle the realisation that you WOULD die?
I was glad. I had been laboring under the delusion that Jehoover was going to murder me for not doing better working for his printing company. Now I was going to get to live a life, get old, and die. I like it! -
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What Did You Do With All Your Watchtower Publications?
by minimus ini needed room when i moved so i sadly threw my entire library away.
i mentioned this to an exjw.
he and his wife took all the hundreds of books, including bound volumes from the 1800s and are now using them for research and proof of watchtower lies.. what did you do with your books?.
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garybuss
I unpacked our family collection of Watch Tower Publishing Corporation books and put them on the shelf, then I bought missing items like Yearbooks and old Watchtower magazines. I read most of Russell's work and much of Rutherford's before I made a word by word study of the books used to indoctrinate me when I was a kid like the Let God Be True books.
I read the Reasoning book cover to cover. Then I read it's two predecessors. That was all before modern computers and before the Internet. Now, it's much easier and more fun too. -
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I need proof for my wife that NW Translation is not correct
by Albert Einstein inwhat scriptures would you reccomend, to prove nwt is not reliable?.
please help, i need a reason for my wife to start reading other translation.
i want to start chronological reading of nt with her, to show her wtbs is not a mediator for us.. thanks.
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...Radical New Canadian Sewer System!!...
by OUTLAW ini`m looking for a new home in the canadian mountains..so i`m out checking houses..one house in particular caught my attention.............it`s an older home,with a river in the back..about 600 ft down....a frigg`n cliff!!..lol!
!....it has an interesting sewer system..you flush a toilet and the waste go`s down into a pipe..the pipe run`s along the bottom of the house,to the back of the house..the pipe ends at the back of the house and hangs..open..600ft above the river bank..the "poop" just shoots out the back of the house and falls 600 ft to it`s death!!..lol!
!................on the way down you can hear the "poop" scream!.........i think the theory is behind this sewer system is:to scare the shit out of the poop,before it hits the rocks 600 ft below....
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garybuss
Oh, I was gonna ask ya where the "fresh" water comes from . . . but I think I know.
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...Radical New Canadian Sewer System!!...
by OUTLAW ini`m looking for a new home in the canadian mountains..so i`m out checking houses..one house in particular caught my attention.............it`s an older home,with a river in the back..about 600 ft down....a frigg`n cliff!!..lol!
!....it has an interesting sewer system..you flush a toilet and the waste go`s down into a pipe..the pipe run`s along the bottom of the house,to the back of the house..the pipe ends at the back of the house and hangs..open..600ft above the river bank..the "poop" just shoots out the back of the house and falls 600 ft to it`s death!!..lol!
!................on the way down you can hear the "poop" scream!.........i think the theory is behind this sewer system is:to scare the shit out of the poop,before it hits the rocks 600 ft below....
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garybuss
Add another reason for me not to want to live in the mountains. Here my poop goes into an underground tank for storage until a truck comes to pick it up. Then the truck drives to the creek and dumps it off the side of the hill. Much better.
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...Radical New Canadian Sewer System!!...
by OUTLAW ini`m looking for a new home in the canadian mountains..so i`m out checking houses..one house in particular caught my attention.............it`s an older home,with a river in the back..about 600 ft down....a frigg`n cliff!!..lol!
!....it has an interesting sewer system..you flush a toilet and the waste go`s down into a pipe..the pipe run`s along the bottom of the house,to the back of the house..the pipe ends at the back of the house and hangs..open..600ft above the river bank..the "poop" just shoots out the back of the house and falls 600 ft to it`s death!!..lol!
!................on the way down you can hear the "poop" scream!.........i think the theory is behind this sewer system is:to scare the shit out of the poop,before it hits the rocks 600 ft below....
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garybuss
Oh my gosh!
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What is the Truth? How do you Define it?
by Amazing injws teach that 'accurate knowledge' is the definition of truth.
they add to this by saying that the 'conduct' of average church goers also identifies them as not being in the 'truth.
' and, they define their 'organization' as being the truth, because they are a clean people who are doing right works, and teaching accurately.
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garybuss
OUTLAW, when I come out to visit, remind me to drive.