I gotta ask myself . . . When's the last time I heard of a company that quit charging for it's product and made more money . . . ?
On the other hand . . . Watch Tower Inc built virtually all of Patterson AFTER the donation agreement started. Check it out. Go to Google Earth and type in Patterson, NY. It's south east of the town. Circle drives and blue roofs. Hard to miss.
Then go to Wallkill, NY. Just updated by Google to about 60' elevation. Very clear pictures. Edited to add: Go to 900 Red Mills Road, Wallkill, NY
It's almost straight west of the town of Wallkill. West of the airport, west of the riv
Those nickles and dimes my brother and I sent in from selling magazines on dirty street corners instead of playing with our friends added up.
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Is The Borg Losing Money Drastically Or What???
by cognac inthere has been about 5 trillion talks on donating money.
never heard so many talks on this before... they have said in talks a few times that when the society charged per mag or whatever, the society got a lot more in donations then they do now and the cost in production has gone up.
anyone have any feedback on this?.
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1935 "Loyalty" booklet--PDF!
by Atlantis in1935 "loyalty" booklet-pdf!
a researcher on the board needed this booklet a few days ago and we were able to locate him one.
others might want it for their records also.
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Nice! Thanks!
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Reading Steve Hassan's Book. WOW!
by White Dove inhassan's book is helping me so much in letting go and not being affraid of being found out by the jw's here in "greenland.
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what amazing information about how the jw's compare to other high control groups and cults.. he hasn't even mentioned the jw's, so far.. it is helping me so much in gaining my confidence and not worrying about what jw's preach about the end of the world, and such.. i love this book!.
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How is the organization organized?
by insearchoftruth inam trying to figure out the structure of the organization, what do terms like co, do, elder, pioneer, aux pioneer etc mean?
which of these positions are open to men....to women....are some of the positions earned by levels of service or are they appointed.
what are the perks associated with the positions?.
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The Watch Tower is a business corporation and is structured and operates exactly like the business corporation that it is. The business started out as a printed material publishing company. The Bible Students were the readers (customers) of the company.
After Pastor Russell's death in 1916, an attorney named Rutherford, and some enterprising insiders stole the company and changed it's focus to politics.
After Rutherford and the corporation directors were released from Federal prison, the readers were en-mass turned into unpaid literature distributors. In 1931 the sales people were named Jehovah's Witnesses.
The business is very clever. It looks like a multi level marketing business when it's laid out on paper. The structure was modeled after the military. Groups were called "companies", covert (dishonest) activities are called "theocratic warfare", and lower rank members are called "rank and file".
The Witnesses no longer do direct sales, but literature distribution is still their basic purpose. The structure directly above the Witness congregation is run by Watch Tower paid people. That structure looks like any other sales and marketing business. The snap-shot profile fits any pyramid model, from the Catholic Church, to Ford Motor Company, to the United States Federal Government.
The Watch Tower company is currently in upheaval and has been systematically restructuring itself since about 1990. The biggest change occurred in 2000 when the branch and zone took over management of United States operations. -
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How to find new friends?
by socialdistortion inhi... my name is chrissy & i have been away from the "truth" for 8 years now.
i married a "brother" when i was 20. i was humiliated by the "elders" in the backroom for oral sex & publicly humiliated but never disfellowshipped.
my husband & i left the truth together after moving away from the area where we lived when we were witnesses.
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Run an ad in the paper advertising $100 cash to the first 10 callers. It won't get you any friends but you'll be so busy you won't miss not having any.
Seriously, (if that's possible) I know people who are not real outgoing and they joined a service organization that meets every week like the Lyons. They sponsor projects like parks and education centers and the volunteer work and the weekly meetings put the members in an active social setting that actually helps other people as a benefit.
It's good for the social life and it's great for self confidence and self esteem too. There's something about looking at a park I helped build.
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Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"
by witnessgirl inwell, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.
ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.
the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.
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What's it say about Eisenhower's parents? Anything about Eisenhower himself? His brother?
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Have any of you heard about "The Cleavage Talk?" C'mon!!
by Lady Zombie insupposedly about the same time as the bethel visitor's dress code brochure, talks were being given in kh concerning women showing cleavage.. i don't know.
i haven't heard any of these talks myself, but my folks tell me they have.
they also told me about the talks given in other congregations (reported to them by their friends).. i guess some cos, pos, etc.
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We had women at our circuit and district assemblies that would make a 60 year old Vegas hooker blush. The corridors were like a Frederick's of Hollywood show and go. Damn wonder the assembly didn't get busted by the vice squad.
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Another convention - What should my sign have written on it?
by tryingtounderstandjws inanother convention is taking place in my neighborhood this weekend.
i see them from my office lining up to get in.
what should the sign say?
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"WHO'S DON ADAMS?"
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RECENT REVISIONS TO THE KH DRESS CODE?
by navytownroger ini was told by my former book-study conductor recently that a new 'dress code' had been handed down by the wts, because people had been 'getting too casual' with their styles of clothing.
one item he mentioed was a new rule for women prohibiting denim skirts.
and, when a woman wore a denim jacket, she was also told this was not appropriate for the kh.
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There ya go. Sisters could wear hemp panties. Stroke em and smoke em.
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RECENT REVISIONS TO THE KH DRESS CODE?
by navytownroger ini was told by my former book-study conductor recently that a new 'dress code' had been handed down by the wts, because people had been 'getting too casual' with their styles of clothing.
one item he mentioed was a new rule for women prohibiting denim skirts.
and, when a woman wore a denim jacket, she was also told this was not appropriate for the kh.
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They've GOT to be collecting material for their own version of the old TV show "Believe It Or Not!".
Isn't denim just cotton? There's something religious about textiles? I think anybody stupid enough to be a Witness should live a life with polyester stuck to their butt crack. Serves em right!
