Posts by jacethespace

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Who really wrote the bible

by jacethespace in

i was always taught when i joined jws that moses wrote all of the book of genesis.in the all scripture inspired book on page 13 verse 3 it says:.

jehovah god is the author of the bible but he inspired moses to write the book of genesis.from where did moses get the information he recorded in genesis?

some could have been recieved directly by divine revelation and some under the direction of holy spirit.. verse 5 says- there is no question as to who wrote genesis.. well yes there was, in the watchtower magazine 1959 10/1 [ could be 1/10, depending on which country your in] called -finding the truth that makes men free [ taken from the watchtower program 2004] section 15 has this to say:.

jacethespace

I was always taught when i joined jws that Moses wrote all of the book of genesis.In the all scripture inspired book on page 13 verse 3 it says:

Jehovah god is the author of the bible but he inspired moses to write the book of genesis.From where did moses get the information he recorded in genesis? Some could have been recieved directly by divine revelation and some under the direction of holy spirit.

Verse 5 says- There is no question as to who wrote genesis.

Well yes there was, in the watchtower magazine 1959 10/1 [ could be 1/10, depending on which country your in] Called -finding the truth that makes men free [ taken from the watchtower program 2004] section 15 has this to say:

Actually the bible is so old that it has three documents written before the flood of noahs day four thousand years ago.The first document is gods dictation to adam of the basic facts of the earths creation.The second document called the book of adams history [ gen 5:1] was written by adam himself and was carried in the ark through the flood by faithfull noah [ Funny i dont see this proved by the bible] and eventually given to moses [ AMAZING] who incorporated the document into the book of genesis.The third document was written by our common forefather noah the flood survivor.

Wow i guess they had some new light by the magic fairy later on.

So who really wrote the bible?

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Ok - All Hallow's Eve is just half a fortnight away.....

by AK - Jeff in

do you believe in witches, goblins, ghosts?

is there anything out in the shadows to really fear?

is there a supernatural world out there?

jacethespace

This halloween i,ll be dressing up and going door to door as a jehovahs witness warning people of approaching doom and in return asking for money [ahem i mean donations].And if they dont agree i,ll be putting a big x on the door with red paint.

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Is the world facing a new world order.

by jacethespace in

for quite some time now i have been researching about the new world order and ive gotta say there is something in this.take for example videos of henry kissinger up on youtube being interviewed by charlie rose on a number of occasions.back in 2005 kissinger said " in the next 4 years we will see the beginnings of a new world order.earlier this year he said " in 2 years we will see the emergence of a new world order" and that " america is not very good at foreign policy, neverless they are in a key position so that the problem of the bush presidency will be the emergence of a new international order.and " either this administration will have to travel this road or the new administration.. gorden brown new british prime minister gave a speech to cbi company back in may 07 and said " what does a new world order mean for britain".at the end of the speech he said " in conclusion ladies and gentleman a new world order is emerging.gorden browns speech is up on cbi,s website or youtube.. at the moment america is being integrated with the north american union.in britain and other countries we are getting the european union.there is the africa union and a few others.. there is huge amounts of evidence on government websites.even documents on the cia website called the cia in the new world order through 2015.. the question is what is meant by the new world order, is it as sinister as people say it is.. i would like to hear your opinons on this and any information you might have on the nwo..

jacethespace

For quite some time now i have been researching about the new world order and ive gotta say there is something in this.Take for example videos of henry kissinger up on youtube being interviewed by charlie rose on a number of occasions.Back in 2005 kissinger said " in the next 4 years we will see the beginnings of a new world order.Earlier this year he said " in 2 years we will see the emergence of a new world order" and that " america is not very good at foreign policy, neverless they are in a key position so that the problem of the bush presidency will be the emergence of a new international order.And " either this administration will have to travel this road or the new administration.

Gorden Brown new british prime minister gave a speech to cbi company back in may 07 and said " what does a new world order mean for britain".At the end of the speech he said " in conclusion ladies and gentleman a new world order is emerging.Gorden browns speech is up on cbi,s website or youtube.

At the moment America is being integrated with the north american union.In Britain and other countries we are getting the european union.There is the africa union and a few others.

There is huge amounts of evidence on government websites.Even documents on the cia website called the cia in the new world order through 2015.

The question is what is meant by the new world order, is it as sinister as people say it is.

I would like to hear your opinons on this and any information you might have on the nwo.

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Is Satan getting a bad rap?

by lovelylil in

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the thread on spiritism got me thinking about all the ridiculous things the jw's in my hall blamed on satan.

like their kid getting a cold and they had to miss the meeting or getting a flat tire on saturday, thus missing field service.. i always wondered if satan is such a powerful spirit creature, why the hell would he waste his time flattening tires or causing a runny nose?

you would think he would be causing wwiii or another plague or something!.

jacethespace

A month or so after i was baptized i had an asthma attack and ended up in hostpital.Some in my cong blamed this on satan.One person said that when someone was baptized they had a car crash and this was satans doing.Cant help wondering that if all this happened to me now ive stopped going to the meetings that it would probably be my fault for not going to the meetings cause im cursed.So we are screwed either way

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I'm placing a Climax book with my new therapist

by oompa in

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yep, oompa started today with a new therapist who of course wanted to know if i had anything in particular that was the cause of me seeking his service.

so i kinda gave him a jwcult for dummy therapists cliffnotes version, and he seemed like he just couldn't believe some of it.

he understands my awakening has been difficult for me and the stress it has put on my wife and marriage/family.

jacethespace

Snap oompa i went to the docs yesterday to arrange to see a therapist will it do any good though i wonder.

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world war 1 and collapse of empires

by jacethespace in

the tower has often used the information about world war 1 and how many empires that had existed for thousands of years collapsed during this war and that the map of europe was changed forever as evidence that their 1914 date is accurate.they also quote comments from people saying that morals, politcal, religious, finacial, fell apart during this time too and has been on a downslide ever since.. im intrested to see what people think of this information.and if they have anymore info concerning this..

jacethespace

The tower has often used the information about world war 1 and how many empires that had existed for thousands of years collapsed during this war and that the map of europe was changed forever as evidence that their 1914 date is accurate.They also quote comments from people saying that morals, politcal, religious, finacial, fell apart during this time too and has been on a downslide ever since.

Im intrested to see what people think of this information.And if they have anymore info concerning this. jacethespace.

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My JW Experience

by BBOARD in

the stress in the day to day scenario for a jehovah witnesses trying to live their life through the wtbts is the same that cause them to work harder until they either work even harder, fade away, or suffer a mental breakdown.

fear of reproof or divine punishment from jehovah, not love for jesus, grips their day to day activities as they feel they must fulfill their duties of preaching and attending meeting.

many who came into the organization in the 90s; came in due to the friendliness of the people and not the reality of the cult.

jacethespace

That was one of the best posts i have ever read, straight to the point, thank you.I read this whole post with emotions from sadness and anger at how these professed true servants of god can behave and act like they do.In my case my mental state changed for the worse not long after my study and other things that followed.I quickly got the message that most at the kh esp the elders just could nt give a damn about your life.They are there to just make you conform.

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Does anyone have any pictures?

by BEROEAN in

i've been searching all over for pictures of governing body members engaged in "unscriptural conduct" and i still haven't found any.

i thought that in this day and age with cell phone cameras and spy equipment, at least one person would have something grimey.

i want to see what really goes on after hours in the borg.

jacethespace

i got a few pics of taze russell looking daper from off the library of congress website but i want to keep these for target practice.

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jehovahs witnesses and the un relationship

by jacethespace in

for years i studied the awake and watchtower literature and at times wondered to myself why [ esp in the awake] do they keep quoting the un so much when they are saying the un is satans tool.i got more curious when i read an awake main article which was practically dedicated to the un, all about the uns projects,etc.then it all made sense when i discovered that the tower had had a realtionship of some sort with the un.when i spoke to the elders they seemed non the wiser but looked into it and came back with info saying it was just a library card for the info section.which i was suspicous of,especially when the elder told me this year that " the un thing is old news anyway so why bring that up".. does anyone have any further info on this or documents?

i had heard that american congregations had been sent letters from bethel explaining this, is that true?

because as far as i know british congregations didnt recieve any letters or anything about this.. jacethespace..

jacethespace

For years i studied the awake and watchtower literature and at times wondered to myself why [ esp in the awake] do they keep quoting the un so much when they are saying the un is satans tool.I got more curious when i read an awake main article which was practically dedicated to the un, all about the uns projects,etc.Then it all made sense when i discovered that the tower had had a realtionship of some sort with the un.When i spoke to the elders they seemed non the wiser but looked into it and came back with info saying it was just a library card for the info section.Which i was suspicous of,especially when the elder told me this year that " the un thing is old news anyway so why bring that up".

Does anyone have any further info on this or documents? I had heard that american congregations had been sent letters from bethel explaining this, is that true? because as far as i know british congregations didnt recieve any letters or anything about this.

jacethespace.

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Actually sat through a whole meeting for the first time in 6 months

by B_Deserter in

a brother from my old hall was giving the talk so my brother (who lives with me and has no idea how i feel) signed us up for hospitality.

i decided i should at least make an appearance to stave off the storm a little.

man, i can barely stand being there.

jacethespace

Me and my friend began regularly going outside during the second song half way through the meetings.We would just chill and chat.But the looks we would get when we went back in was like they thought the anti christ had landed or something.After a while before i left i wouldnt bother going back in.i just went home instead.