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  Those flying saucers

  by jacethespace in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are the american authorities covering up what they know about ufos.and perhaps the existence of other beings.. researching lately old newspapers on the net i came across a lot of material reporting sightings of ufos all starting in or around 1947 and all in america.some crashed some openly landed in a park and pictures were took.and america created and expermented with disc shaped craft such as the famous avro car.but they denied that they continued with the projects and that ufo sightings had anything to do with them.here is some articled :.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xa4laaaaibaj&sjid=hvudaaaaibaj&pg=2161,2264834.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xfqkaaaaibaj&sjid=d1adaaaaibaj&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc.

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  And google flying disc
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  Those flying saucers

  by jacethespace in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are the american authorities covering up what they know about ufos.and perhaps the existence of other beings.. researching lately old newspapers on the net i came across a lot of material reporting sightings of ufos all starting in or around 1947 and all in america.some crashed some openly landed in a park and pictures were took.and america created and expermented with disc shaped craft such as the famous avro car.but they denied that they continued with the projects and that ufo sightings had anything to do with them.here is some articled :.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xa4laaaaibaj&sjid=hvudaaaaibaj&pg=2161,2264834.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xfqkaaaaibaj&sjid=d1adaaaaibaj&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc.

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  Sorry a lot of the links to newspapers are down but you can google these on google news section under ufos and dates 1944 1947
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  Those flying saucers

  by jacethespace in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are the american authorities covering up what they know about ufos.and perhaps the existence of other beings.. researching lately old newspapers on the net i came across a lot of material reporting sightings of ufos all starting in or around 1947 and all in america.some crashed some openly landed in a park and pictures were took.and america created and expermented with disc shaped craft such as the famous avro car.but they denied that they continued with the projects and that ufo sightings had anything to do with them.here is some articled :.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xa4laaaaibaj&sjid=hvudaaaaibaj&pg=2161,2264834.

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xfqkaaaaibaj&sjid=d1adaaaaibaj&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc.

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  Are the american authorities covering up what they know about ufos.And perhaps the existence of other beings.

  Researching lately old newspapers on the net i came across a lot of material reporting sightings of ufos all starting in or around 1947 and all in America.Some crashed some openly landed in a park and pictures were took.And america created and expermented with disc shaped craft such as the famous Avro car.But they denied that they continued with the projects and that ufo sightings had anything to do with them.Here is some articled :

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xa4LAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hVUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2161,2264834

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=XfQKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=D1ADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc

  http://news.google.com/newspapers?

  id=iMkKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GU4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3519,5951820&dq=flying+disc

  Earlier reports in America from before 1947 say that the classic glowing balls of light that pilots saw in ww2 commonly known as foo fighters were in fact Secret Nazi tecnlogy.

  At the end of the 2nd world war the American government smuggled in thousands of Nazi scientists into america under operation paperclip.One of these was the famous DR von Braun who built the 1st V2 Rocket.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4443934.stm

  https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v37i4a07p_0003.htm

  I have always had an intrest in ufos right from when i was little.But seeing this evidence i conclude that ufos were created most probably by the nazis and America used Nazi scientists to continue there progress.As for where the Nazis got this stuff from that might be a more shocking story perhaps!

  What do you think ?
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  Charles taze russell had an affair

  by jacethespace in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so what do you think did charles taze russell get a divorce because he was having an affair with the maid ?.

  here is a news report from the new york times in 1909 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9d07e6da1031e733a25752c0a9649c946897d6cf.

  just click on the free pdf document and read.. it says charles russell was divorced by his wife for kissing the maid.but when russell is asked about it he says he doesnt know why his wife divorced him.. intresting article.. .

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  So what do you think did charles taze russell get a divorce because he was having an affair with the maid ?

  Here is a news report from the new york times in 1909 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D07E6DA1031E733A25752C0A9649C946897D6CF

  Just click on the free pdf document and read.

  It says charles russell was divorced by his wife for kissing the maid.But when Russell is asked about it he says he doesnt know why his wife divorced him.

  intresting article.
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  Do you know of any df'd Swingers that got reinstated?

  by asilentone in

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  Not so far!

  But when you do please pass on there names addresses,etc.
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  Know any cases from platform or audience of "apostate" remarks?

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving, one of my fantasies (after hours on the platform in the old days) is making a well planned statement, starting out subtle and building it into an outright expose of wt doctrine.

  it would have to be a specific subject, (1914 generation would be good) to keep it consise and simple.

  i have seen a couple of "crackpot" situations where somebody yelled from the audience, but nothing very effective.

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  Would be good if someone started on a disscussion of say 1914 and then in the talk added on how the watchtower predicted the end would come in 1887-1914-1975 etc,Then add " but we are sure the end will come " " Maybe one day ".

  Might give people a lot to think about.

  Basically use the "truth " back on them.Expose all the wathctower screw ups but put it all in a positive light as you reveal them.
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  Those here who disassociated- do you regret it?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  does anyone here who disassociated regret it?

  do you wish you had just faded instead?

  did disassociating give you a liberating feeling of power over your life?

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  I regret it every single day-

  That i didnt first give some jumped up pricks in my cong a few carefully chosen words before walking away.

  As a whole though most in my cong have been sound.I just decided to fade and not looked back since, its been nearly a year on the 1.1.2009 since i was on the titanic.I mean at a meeting.

  I love it now when im on the way to work or shopping and i spot a cong member.I go right for them and ask them how they are.They ask me and i let them know how well i am NOW! I notice how some seem to be uneasy with the fact that i am happier and more balanced than when i was in the tower.

  There are the odd few though which if i see i expect to completly ignore me.Which is strange because most others dont.
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  Confused a little

  by jacethespace in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  my heads getting a little messed up lately.my lifes moved on a lot since i attended my short return and last meeting on 1.1.2008.. my jobs going extremly well.and recently got into a good relationship thats getting deep.and i mean deeeeep.especially today and i wont go into much detail here.. so why the hell do i feel like im still making a mistake walking away from the watchtower.i feel like im being sucked back into a world that i cant trust where the people around me are misled and im becoming more and more corrupted.is that just the watchtower mind control affecting me or is this really the way it is.. to spell it out i did something today that would get me disfellowshipped and i feel bad.but why?im not in the watchtower anymore.. oh well, just needed to vent a few things here..

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  My heads getting a little messed up lately.My lifes moved on a lot since i attended my short return and last meeting on 1.1.2008.

  My jobs going extremly well.And recently got into a good relationship thats getting deep.And i mean deeeeep.Especially today and i wont go into much detail here.

  So why the hell do i feel like im still making a mistake walking away from the watchtower.I feel like im being sucked back into a world that i cant trust where the people around me are misled and im becoming more and more corrupted.Is that just the watchtower mind control affecting me or is this really the way it is.

  To spell it out i did something today that would get me disfellowshipped and i feel bad.But why?Im not in the watchtower anymore.

  Oh well, just needed to vent a few things here.
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  No book study?

  by jacethespace in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it true that the watchtower has scrapped the book study group meetings?.

  i find this really funny as for years when i was in the tower i was constantly being told how jehovah has set up the book study group so that when the great tribulation starts and religion is turned on we can then all meet in our small book study groups around the world and be protected and still be instructed and spirtually poisoned i mean fed to death.but now this plan is blown out the window those still in the tower are still falling for this bull and believing no doubt that this is jehovah improving his organization.. has anyone still in asked what will happen to the congregation now when religion is banned at the end?.

  also what about the scripture they always used which said 1st century christians met in there homes?does that no longer matter or apply?.

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  Is it true that the watchtower has scrapped the book study group meetings?

  I find this really funny as for years when i was in the tower i was constantly being told how Jehovah has set up the book study group so that when The great tribulation starts and religion is turned on we can then all meet in our small book study groups around the world and be protected and still be instructed and spirtually poisoned i mean fed to death.But now this plan is blown out the window those still in the tower are still falling for this bull and believing no doubt that this is Jehovah improving his organization.

  Has anyone still in asked what will happen to the congregation now when religion is banned at the end?

  Also what about the scripture they always used which said 1st century christians met in there homes?Does that no longer matter or apply?

  Has anyone else been told anything similar?

  It just shows what a load of bull we were fed in the tower and how much they contradict themselves.
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  Dexter

  by leavingwt in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  any fans?

  love it.

  can't get enough.. if you have never seen it, don't judge it by the commercials.

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  Best show i saw in ages- season 1 was on here in britain and then i downloaded the entire second series off the internet to watch because i couldnt wait to see what happened next.

  Theres kind of a moral to it somewhere along the line about the darkness and hidden side of people.