a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
The C.O will not be done away with in my opinion.
The C.O is a buffer between the congregation and the W.T.S.
The C.O appoints the Elders M.S's ect so if anyone wants to sue the W.T.S for the actions of anyone they can say "Blame the C.O he appointed them and sue him"
An easy out for the W.T.S.
Karter.
its a serious question but we all know that thousands even millions have been misled, brainwashed or deluded into thinking the end of the world is coming by false teachers and prophets.
many people gave up family, careers, time, enjoyment of life etc etc only to be disappointed time and time again.they are responsible for pain, suffering, and manipulation.
this goes to many denominations.
Get the 1st Amendment repealed and your on your way.
Karter.
sooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.
"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!
"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?
"I'm going away i could be sometime"Lawrence oates walking away to his death on the way back from the south pole expedition.
Karter.
sooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.
"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!
"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?
"This wallpapers dreadful one of us has to go".Ocsar Wilde on his deathbed.
Karter.
greetings, gourmands of the forum!.
i agree with garfield, but mayo comes in a close second.
slathering my pasta with an inch of best foods real mayonnaise (hellman's, east of the rockies) is close to heaven for me.
Seafood and fresh seafood.
Karter.
no doubt this has been discussed before, but if the 1975 event had never happened where would watchtower be now.
comments please..
There was alot of growth pre 75 then in 1976 N.H.Knoor went on a world wide tour to shore up the masses as the number started to go down.
I went to his talk at the Auckland New Zealand Town hall,He spoke for 90 mins with out notes,Looking back i'm sure he had given that talk so many times he didn't need to.
It took a long time to recover from 75 and they gave a sort of very vague apology in a Watchtower in 1982 that by now they will be denying.
Karter.
the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.
i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!
so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.
The internet is their worst nightmare come true.
Karter.
elder and his wife build a flash house.. they go on the stage at an assembly and give an experiences of how they sold the flash house to simplify their life so they can go pioneering.. the real story.. elder and wife can't afford the flash house and have to sell it he never goes pioneering she does until they are declared bankrupt.. why were they bankrupt?.
the money leaft over from the flash house they invested in a yet to be build apartment and the developer goes bankrupt takeing their money.. just one of many.. karter..
Elder and his wife build a flash house.
They go on the stage at an assembly and give an experiences of how they sold the flash house to simplify their life so they can go pioneering.
The real story.
Elder and wife can't afford the flash house and have to sell it he never goes pioneering she does until they are declared bankrupt.
Why were they bankrupt?
The money leaft over from the flash house they invested in a yet to be build apartment and the developer goes bankrupt takeing their money.
Just one of many.
Karter.
i was an elder in two different congregations and both were conservative and strict, especially congregation number one.
it was headed by a former branch servant as they were called back then.
all elders were by the book.
Elder with short mans syndrome used to pick on my mother as my father was never a J.W.However my mother came from a fairly rough background and wouldn't take any s##t from him and they clashed.....want to council her on anything...make sure you have your facts rite as she wouldn't just lie down and die.
Elder that liked to lord it over everyone.Had the book study at my place now and then we would have refreshments after the book study that i stopped because i got sick of food being spilt into my carpet.Elder lord it over decided that seeing our book study was being split up he announced there would be a supper after next weeks book study and everyone to bring a plate.
Everyone that arrived with a plate of food i politely asked them to take it back to their car....Elder lord it over said nothing...neither did i..i didn't have too.
Karter.
i was talking to an elder recently about all sorts of things non j.w related.. he said something about a guy in his congregation who is related to my ex wife and molested a little girl.. i said " i don't want to hear anything about that guy after what he did".
elder"i dont know what he did".
me" he is a child sex offender".
I was talking to an Elder recently about all sorts of things non J.W related.
He said something about a guy in his congregation who is related to my ex wife and molested a little girl.
I said " i don't want to hear anything about that guy after what he did"
Elder"I dont know what he did"
Me" He is a child sex offender"
Elder"Ahhh i didnt know that"
Me "So when he moved to your congregation a letter from his last congregation was not read out?
Elder"I cant talk about that"
I leaft it at that as i couldn't be bothered talking about it any more but think i made my point.
Karter.
