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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims

  by Tahoe in

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  jehovah's witnesses have tried - and failed - to get an advance copy of the abuse in care inquiry's final report into their church.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia (ccjwa) filed an urgent claim in the high court in auckland on 21 june to obtain a copy of the final case study relating to the religious denomination in the inquiry's report, but the claim was dismissed.. it also unsuccessfully sought all relevant underlying documents supporting the case study.. in a separate case, the jehovah's witnesses also filed for leave to appeal to the supreme court after the court of appeal dismissed an earlier bid to avoid the scrutiny of the inquiry altogether.. rnz understands the ccjwa received and commented on a draft copy of the case study in may, but has yet to see a final draft.. if its high court claim had been successful, it could have led to the church receiving a copy before the government or abuse survivors had read the report.. jehovah's witnesses is the only religious group to take legal action against the commission.. it has taken similar action against public inquiries overseas, including in australia and the united kingdom.. in a statement, a jehovah's witnesses spokesperson said it had no choice but to go to court.. "we are in full agreement with the inquiry's objective to protect children but have serious concerns about the accuracy of the report regarding jehovah's witnesses.. "child protection is of utmost concern to jehovah's witnesses and we believe the people of new zealand, its decision-makers and most importantly survivors, deserve to be presented with accurate information.

  we have no choice but to resort to court to address these issues.".

  the inquiry is due to hand its final report to the governor-general on wednesday, wrapping up six years of work.. after that, it will be passed to internal affairs brooke van velden, who must table the report in parliament before it is made public.. that was expected to happen in the week beginning 22 july.. survivors of church abuse new zealand spokesperson and former jehovah's witnesses elder shayne mechen said former jehovah's witnesses members and survivors had been angered by the new court action.. "they are feeling angry and frustrated because it shows they [the church] don't care.".

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  I live in New Zealand and can tell them about many C.S.A cases.

  1 Elder a child rapest.

  1 M.S C.S.A with his 3 sisters.

  Many more.

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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  New Zealand and he was in Australia "Hans Hubbler" stopped during a talk at an assembly to ask the attendents to remove a crying baby.

  Was a rude arrogant man who loved the power and loved to use it.

  They had problems getting anyone to have him and his equally horable wife for meals.

  When he intoduced the C.O who took over from him (Merv cant remember last his name) He said "This is the guy who trained me" He was basicly sayng you think im an arsehole this guy trained me....Turned out to be one of the best C.Os we had.

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  JW's lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a New Zealand Royal Commission

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  the jehovah's witnesses have lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a new zealand royal commission.

  "a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church challenging a ruling by the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the court of appeal.

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515102/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-appeal-dismissed.

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  They can appeal to the supreme court and my guess is they will.

  They have a $1000 ( about $600 usd) an hour Kings Council lawyer and his high priced hangers on .

  My hope is the supreme court will not hear it.

  They have awarded cost to the crown so keep those donations comming they need it.

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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Mt Taranaki in the summer.
  
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Hokianga habour North Island New zealand
  
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  Beautiful photos

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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  copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

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  Murawi Beach North Island new zealand.
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  NZ Article: Abuse in care inquiry: Jehovah's Witness church appeals dismissal of bid for exclusion

  by Tahoe in

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  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/511603/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-church-appeals-dismissal-of-bid-for-exclusion .

  the jehovah's witness church is appealing the high court's dismissal of its legal bid to get out of being part of the abuse in care inquiry.. the high court in wellington dismissed its application for a judicial review in october after a three-year behind-the-scenes battle between the church and the inquiry.. a hearing is set for 21 march in the court of appeal in wellington.. in a letter to survivors today, the inquiry said it could not comment further as the matter was before the court, but it would have wellbeing support available at the hearing for survivors who attend.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia said it considered the high court judgment "contained errors of law which is seeks to challenge".. "given the matter is again active litigation, it is not appropriate for ccjwa to disclose anything further at this point," it said in a statement.. the church sought a judicial review to be exempt from the inquiry, arguing it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not run institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people.. in her judgment, justice ellis said the jehovah's witness church did not have a "fundamental right to avoid scrutiny".. the church's claim that its policies prevented elders - who are like ministers - from spending time alone with children, was also thrown out by ellis, who said evidence provided to the inquiry, and from overseas, showed otherwise.. the inquiry's scope was expanded to include faith-based institutions in november 2018 after lobbying from religious groups and survivors.

  the jehovah's witness faith is the only group to oppose being involved, culminating in its application for a judicial review in may 2023..

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  Nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. I live in N.Z and can tell them of many C.S.A cases.

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  ex-jw-uk

  by bigmac in

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  i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

  i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

  i've already found several by reading older posts..

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  I was in Walham Green congro 1984.

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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

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  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  I live in New Zealand and can give them many names of Child sex offenders.

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  My Most Memorable Circuit & District Overseers

  by MillennialDawn in

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  2. friends

  i would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.

  david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.

  just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.

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  Hans Hubbler was a C.O in New Zealand and the most horrable, disliked C.O ever.

  They had problems getting people to have him and his equally horrable wife for meals.

  He ordered the attendents to remove a crying baby at an assembly.

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