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  Disassociated with the JWs

  by wizardca in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after having faded 12+ years ago, finally decided to da my-self.

  i haven't done it before, mainly because the jws have left me alone and have family that are heavily into the religion cult.

  in recent weeks i've had the "in" family go off the deep end with their actions increasing being rediculous.

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  karter

  Wizardca,

  My guess is 2 elders will call on you i belive thats the way they handle it.

  You can say nothing or try makeing your piont(s) about why you want to DA.

  All the best.

  karter.
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  JW Fraudster from "down under" - high profile

  by sizemik in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's an interesting story .

  .. in 1992 johnston, a jehovah's witness who sometimes preached door to door, had started with an improbable goal: he would make a fortune selling nothing more than a concept.

  it was a magic pill that cut emission and made fuel last longer.

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  karter

  I remember Johnson from his days here in NZ he had a bissness called 'Everyday brushers".

  He seemed to me like a decent sort of guy.

  However that was some years ago .

  Karter.
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  I`ll play the devils advocate : generation change

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have the wt may 15 1994 scan with the birthdates & deaths of the 16 people featured, and it occured to me using wt logic,that you could extend the generation timespan this way.. #6 d.d.

  was born in 1892 and died in 1984. that was the earliest birth of this group.

  #4 j.e was born in 1912 and died in 1997. the age gap between these two is 20 years.

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  karter

  Send it to the G.B.

  Seems only you and them can understand it.

  Karter.
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  "Unscriptural to say a former child abuser could never enjoy exemplary privleges of service." Oh really?

  by headisspinning in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it is a known fact that on average a pedophile will abuse as many as 200 children in his/her lifetime.. with that in mind.

  read an extract from an august 1, 1995 letter to all bodies of elders in the usa.. i guess these untrained elders are somehow experts in this area and can determine if someone will reoffend even though law enforcement, psychiatrists and specialists cannot offer the same guarantee and in many cases will even suggest that these known sex offenders are very likely to reoffend when the opportunity presents itself.... to all bodies of elders in the united states.

  august i, 1995.

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  karter

  I had a conversation with an Elder that went like this.

  ME: So child abusers are aloud to go from door to door freely?

  Elder: Yes in some cercumstances.

  Me: So you have decided for the house holder that it's OK for a child abuser to come into their house and start a study with them even if the householder has young children?

  If i saw that happen i would be obliged to say something (there is 2 child abusers in my old congro) it's not up to us to decide that it's OK the house holder has that rite.

  Elder: No comment.
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  Have you read my experience in the Awake?Read this

  by ELON14 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of you already know my real name.i'm the one whose experience was published in the sep 8 1994 awake mag.

  i would like to stress that although i have good reason to be angry and bitter, nothing i say here is said in anger but only in sadness.

  i write this to say that if i could take back many of my words i said in that experience , i would.

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  karter

  I was in the south island when Elon went missing then when it all came out what happened.

  The local Brothers were quick to bad mouth Rami and put him down as soon as he leaft the WTS.
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  Lovers becoming friends

  by JRK in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  please help me understand the dynamics of it.

  how do you go from being intimate to becoming buddies?

  i have always been better at being a friend than being in a relationship.

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  karter

  If i wasen't on the other side of the planet i'd come visit you JK.

  We have swaped many a email and have alot of the same interests.

  Take care my freind and hope you sort out any problem you are going through.

  karter from downunder.
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  Nepotism....How much went on in your congro????

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the worst case i saw was a guy & girl(both baptized) who were liveing togeather,smokeing dope,getting drunk ect.. they get called out by the elders and given a tell off and were married in the kh 3 months latter.. .

  his dad,grandad and uncles were all elders in the area.. .

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  karter

  The worst case i saw was a guy & girl(Both baptized) who were liveing togeather,Smokeing dope,Getting drunk ect.

  They get called out by the Elders and given a tell off and were married in the KH 3 months latter.

  His Dad,Grandad and uncles were all Elders in the area.
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  Are they going to keep lowering the bar to be appointed an MS or Elder???

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mother told me of 2 young guys that have been appointed elders.. i could'nt belive it these guys have zero life experance and both their wifes walked out on them after a few years of marrage.. another one cooked his brain on drugs and his talks are painfull to listen to....all over the place and stumbles through them.. .

  is it due to alot of young ones (60 to 70%) leaving and the pool to pick from is getting smaller so lowering the bar is the only way???

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  My Mother told me of 2 young guys that have been appointed Elders.

  I could'nt belive it these guys have zero life experance and both their wifes walked out on them after a few years of marrage.

  Another one cooked his brain on drugs and his talks are painfull to listen to....all over the place and stumbles through them.

  Is it due to alot of young ones (60 to 70%) leaving and the pool to pick from is getting smaller so lowering the bar is the only way????
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  Dislexics of JWN Unite!

  by highdose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure i can't be the only one here whose happily deslecic?

  after all this talk of puncuation and spelling i feel we of the delesac glory should stand together.. against a world of sneering nerdy anorak types.

  in short the types that end up being accountants and maths/ english teachers.

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  karter

  I got diagnosed at 13 ....the teacher offer to give me a book about it.

  Think about that.
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  KINGDOM HALL IN SHANNON NEW ZEALAND LIES TIDY BUT EMPTY?!!

  by steve2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's a kingdom hall in shannon, a small rural town in manawatu, new zealand, 16 kms from the nearest town, foxton, and about 30 kms from palmerston north city (population around 80,000).

  jws used to go on about how fast they were growing in new zealand that even a small town like shannon (population little more than 1,000) has its very own kingdom hall.

  in the late 70s, the local jws worked hard to build a brand new kingdom hall and i was among the happy throngs when it was dedicated.

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  karter

  Steve2.

  During the late 80's and early 90's i worked on about 15 quick builds in the north island we could'nt build them fast enough.

  Seems they are emptying out just as fast.

  My sister & husband moved to Taumaranui they had 1 Elder a young guy who as soon as my Elder bro-in-law moved in he stood down.

  I helped build the KH there and it seated 250 now they have 40 publishers at best and most of them older.

  I worked on the south auckland assembly hall in the weekends.

  There were 22 full time workers there after about 3 years of those 22,10 had fallen away.

  Seems the WTS was over optomistic about future growth.