i must say there is no other religion in modern times that has lied more to their cult followers than the watchtower company and no more brain dead, gullible cult members than the jdubs.. just three examples.
when russel was in charge 1914 was prophesied to be the end of the system of things with armageddon and the earthly paradise.
that didn't happen and poof now 1914 was not the end, oh no, it was the beginning of the end.. the second example, the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end came, which meant in all jdubs minds that paradise had to be here in the late 1990's.
1914 is slowly being fazed out,Soon it will be like 1975 if anyone mentions it they will be accused of "Running ahead of the W.T.S" or "We have new lite" or whatever other B.S they can come up with.
I predict they will come up with a new date like 1986 the U.N year of peace and security or what ever date suits them.
Karter.
a bit of context on the situation that occurred 8 years ago.. i grew up with this woman.
beautiful person, not hat asthetically, just such a great human being.
we always had feeling for each other.
Ayeitsbooboo,Be streight up and ask her if she is still a hardout JW?
If she is my advice is to walk away before you get anymore involved and cause more heartache
The religion will always come before you,You will be a distant 2nd.
Karter.
after the conviction of arch bishop phillip wilson for concealing sex abuse in the church and cardinal pell"s trial getting underway.. this leaves it wide open for the victims to seek redress.. if you are taken to court expect the wts to through you under a bus and wipe their hands of any blame.. if you think putting your assets in a trust or transfering them into your wife,childrens name...to late any lawyer will argue you only did that to stop any victim seeking redress.. i think the victims will all ready be contemplating their course of action and don't be surprised if court action is not far away.. karter..
After the conviction of Arch Bishop Phillip Wilson for concealing sex abuse in the Church and Cardinal Pell"s trial getting underway.
This leaves it wide open for the victims to seek redress.
If you are taken to court expect the WTS to through you under a Bus and wipe their hands of any blame.
If you think putting your assets in a trust or transfering them into your wife,Childrens name...To late any lawyer will argue you only did that to stop any victim seeking redress.
I think the victims will all ready be contemplating their course of action and don't be surprised if court action is not far away.
Karter.
one thing i don't miss about being a jobo, is those families that ruled the congregations.. i've seen how the elders protected their own using our old friend, nepotism.. eg.
the son of an elder that stole a car and was prosecuted but 'let off' because it was kept secret and all his relatives were elders in the same congregation.
it certainly went on when i was an elder but i wasn't one of the 'in' crowd.
A prominent family that got an artical about them in the year book,Dad an Elder.
Son screws his own sister while his wife is in Hospital having their baby
Karter.....All hushed up and even those who know about it are dont say anything.
Fast foward a few years Son now an Elder and on J.C's D,Fing people for lesser crimes!
15 recommendations from the royal commission into child sexual abuse you should know about.
updated 18 dec 2017, 8:24ammon 18 dec 2017, 8:24am .
photo: the final report is made of up 17 volumes and is tens of thousands of pages long.
15 things the W.T.S will ignore.
Karter.
sooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.
"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!
"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?
just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.
regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.
would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?
If someone confesses to an Elder and they form a J.C does this not negate their rite to "Ecclestical Privilege"?
My understanding is it is only bettween the Clergy they confessed to and the confesser not 2 other Elders and the service dept and whoever else knows??
I live in a Commonwealth country and our laws are mostly from the British legal system and to the best of my knowledge this is the case.
Karter.
i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.
so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?
so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.
These baseless allegations just give active JWs who may visit this forum more ammunition.
Karter.
anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.
i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.
Sweet stuff.
cardinal george pell will return to court in a fortnight ,he has been committed to stand trial relating to multiple complainants .. magistrate belinda wallington struck out about half the charges including the most serious of them .. cardinall george pell denies all charges against him.. the world media is watching the outcome of this trial he is the most senior member of the vatican to be charged with such an offence and by, all people , australians who have conducted their own arc into institutionalized child sexual abuse of children .. we wait with baited breath ( for a just outcome ) in all of these investigations ..
As much as i have no time for the catholic church i take my hat of to Pope francis for telling him to go back to Australia and face trial.
Cardinal Pell was in the Vatican and it's a sovereign state so the Pope could have let him stay there indefinitey.
There seems to be alot of evidence against him ut he will have a platoon of smart as lawyers and appeals if he is found guilty.
Karter.
