If I was directing a large group of persons through "spirit directed" or "inspired" information and said information was consistently wrong...I would personally be looking for a new source.
That's just me, though.
hello all, happy sunday to you!!.
just read quandrys post about the 2007 annual meeting notes.
this comment made during that meeting just got under my skin, so i decided to start a thread to show the dictionarys definition of both of the words.
If I was directing a large group of persons through "spirit directed" or "inspired" information and said information was consistently wrong...I would personally be looking for a new source.
That's just me, though.
i have a question about my religion.
when people turn apostate, why do they seem kinda... weird.
they turn back to false teachings and their bible knowledge even proves that.
I don't understand this intense desire for continued research into why the WTBTS is Right/Wrong (depending on which side of the fence you're on).
Honestly, when I left that organization, it had NOTHING to do with researching doctrine.
Everyone who has been a JW knows that the society has made many errors in what they have "fed" to the congregations.
I left because I felt like I was living a lie, and the "loving" treatment afforded me and my SO was the last nail in the coffin.
We were hanging on because we were terrified to leave, but eventually, when you would rather die than stay, it's time to go.
often i meet jw's that faded away for some reason, and they don't say anything about the religion.
they will talk about anything else.. when i ask them if they still go to meetings, although i know they don't, they just say that they work, or haven't been there lately, although it's years they didn't go.... i talked to a brother yesterday, that i rarely saw at the meetings, and i asked him about his work and seeing that he said nothing about the jw's or meetings, i asked him if there was anything new at the hall.
he just replied, "i work midnight to 8.....meaning i don't go.. he wasn't able to say, "i didn't go in so many months or years", but just said, my work stops me from going.. he knows that i don't go, and that i'm inactive since so many years.
Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of being referred to as "weak" for having the intestinal fortitude to walk away from something that is SO wrong (my opinion).
I believe that each of us have the right to believe what they want to, so why am I "weak" for believing something other than what they preach?
And, for the record, no one in my congregation ever said that to my face. I'm sure it was said behind my back.
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread, but this is a major pet peeve of mine. (I know, my problem)
I don't get many opportunities to talk to other "weak ones". It's been so long since I have even been to a meeting, most of the peeps there don't even know me. The ones that do, run the other way when they see me coming, I must have 666 tattooed on my forehead. LOL
below is a copy of the e-mail my sister sent me.
i had to make arrangements for my kids to be babysat somewhere else until after the wedding.
there little hearts are broken.
Let's see, I believe issues like this make reason #547 on the list of why I got off that loopy ride.
I really feel for you, it amazes me that there are ANY people left in that religion.
What ever happened to families being there for each other?
...my book crisis of conscience was finally delivered!!!
i know it is not really a thread subject.
but i am just too excited!!!
I had never heard of that book until I joined this forum (I am so sheltered), so I haven't read it yet, but I am VERY curious. I may have to purchase it. Happy reading!
i've been disfellowshipped for about ten years yet i rack my brain trying to turn that "shunning" stuff around into something more positive and uplifting.
shunning sounds like --- like --- so final.
it's what we were taught to dread our whole lives.. well, for someone who was raised to be co-dependent with the borg, for me to allow myself to get disfellowshipped and leave because i had some independent thinking going on --- maybe --- just maybe my kids don't talk to me any more because my leaving the jws has left them speechless!.
I am not DF'd, but I might as well be to all of the people that I used to know in my old congregation, they never look me in the eye and rarely say hello.
So, I like it. It makes sense, they don't know how to handle a person who speaks their mind and knows what they want...yeah, speechless works for me.
are you careful about what you say?
do you make sure that you won't offend anyone?
do you care??
I don't go out of my way to be PC. Honesty is important. Why sugarcoat it?
have you ever noticed how jws look at each other through rose coloured glasses.
no jw can do any wrong in the eyes of other jws.
even when its obvious that a jw has done wrong, they are always righteous to other jw"s, as long as a jw gos to meeting and does field service then he must be right with god and therefore must be right in the eyes of others jws.
My experience was just as ifcviking describes. Total backstabbing and gossip mongering. I was never in any of the little cliques because I wasn't willing to go that route.
a brother from my old hall was giving the talk so my brother (who lives with me and has no idea how i feel) signed us up for hospitality.
i decided i should at least make an appearance to stave off the storm a little.
man, i can barely stand being there.
Wow, I think I'm having flashbacks. Even after 20 years of no forced feeding of that stuff, I still feel panic at the thought of someone else having to do it.
Shake it off. Just shake it off.
when you see someone needing help in a public place?
i usually avoid eye contact, but then feel guilty all day.
for instance when you pull up to a light and people are standing there with a sign or actually walk up to your window...i won't ever roll down a window.. today i pulled into the local grocery store parking lot, and there standing with a walker, was a middle aged latino man with his lower legs in some sort of braces.
I generally don't give money, but if I can help in other ways, I will.
I remember one time when I was living in Phoenix to attend a college for massage therapy, I was sitting in a Pizza Hut with a medium pepperoni pizza all to myself and this guy walked up to my booth and just sat down across from me. It scared the hell out of me until he said "I am really, really hungry. Can you spare a slice of pizza?". I realized he was a homeless person and all I would have had to do was start yelling or something to get rid of him, but I couldn't. I let him sit with me and eat over half the pizza all by himself. We talked and I felt really sorry for the guy. I didn't give him money, but I gave him the remaining 2 slices of pizza before I left. It freaks me out to live in a large city, that's why I live out in the boonies.