I was quite surprised by this definition of verklempt, until I realized I had it confused with farblondjet.
Still slightly farblondjet,
GentlyFeral
discuss amongst yourselves.
tr- feeling verclempt .
edited by - tr on 8 december 2002 13:51:52.
I was quite surprised by this definition of verklempt, until I realized I had it confused with farblondjet.
Still slightly farblondjet,
GentlyFeral
i have already gotten an email from someone stating that their gift arrived safely in the mail.
i thought it would be nice to start a thread where we can post what we got (for those nosey like me who want to know!
) and a thank you.. as for me, i haven't even begun yet!
Mulan, why did you sticker my gift "Do Not Open Till Christmas?"
Oh, I know. For the entertainment value!
Many thanks! It's a solid, heavy box; my daughter thinks it's full of sand.
GentlyFeral
this is a true story.
i do not bullshit about stuff like this.. everybody knows i'm agnostic, and most of you know that i lump wicca right in there with all the other religious beliefs as being just one more crock of lies, and have pissed off sunchild and sirona and a few others with my observations about wicca.
well, as i continue on my path of mellowship, i've mellowed toward wicca as well.
Props for Sirona, Avishai, and Robdar, but -- I'm not sure that love spells are necessarily a bad thing. Manipulation, sure, that's bad stuff and if you suspect it you ought to run. But a love spell that is bound by respect for the other's free will? I can't see what could be wrong with that.
Anyhow, it sounds to me like you two had been "charging" your souls by means of all that deep talk the night before. Oh, and the sex certainly didn't hurt. It sounds like the deepest-down part of you is ready to consider searching for a soul-mate. For love. I have no idea whether or not there is any actually ooga-booga happening. It probably doesn't matter.
I say, if you're ready for it, the search will be good for you -- even if your new lady isn't it. You'll be better, stronger, wiser and more alive -- even if it fails.
GentlyFeral
Edited by - GentlyFeral on 4 December 2002 1:48:15
do you still hope to live forever?
I don't so much hope as assume that I will. I've come to believe that joy is eternal; that survival is eternal; but I'm not so sure about self-concsciousness, self-awareness, or the coherence of the individual soul. It's possible, I think, to scatter oneself eternally throughout the joyous cosmos -- and not even know it.
I could deal with that.
GentlyFeral
brief background info - hubby and i were both raised in the borg.
he started having doubts years before me but kept silent.
i came across info on the internet, ordered ray franz' books, found h20 website, then this one.
I've often thought about the UU, but we are very well known in our area, just my luck, I would be spotted going in or out of another church.
Tweetiebird, the UUA website has a searchable directory of churches; maybe there's one out of your neighborhood that's close enough to be convenient.
If not, they do have a wide selection of books -- and a "mail order" church, the Church of the Larger Fellowship, which will send you things to read and even some phone numbers and email addresses if you really need to talk to somebody.
Yes, definitely begin with Hassan's book. I read it just before I decided to leave -- looking for contrasts with the WT. You might recommend it to your husband with that in mind.
Beyond that, the first thing useful thing you can do is start cultivating non-JW friends.
GentlyFeral
brief background info - hubby and i were both raised in the borg.
he started having doubts years before me but kept silent.
i came across info on the internet, ordered ray franz' books, found h20 website, then this one.
Pettygrudger, it's the Unitarian Universalistchurch -- just in case you want to use it as a search term.
Yes, it's a safe and friendly place to go have a religious breakdown -- which is what your husband is experiencing, Tweetiebird. When I needed a place to escape to seven years ago, I needed one with a low bullshit tolerance, non-trinitarian, non-hellfire, and a strong social action tradition. UU was it. I was a UU for 7 years until the pagan thing happened some more. I may go back, just to play with my pals. They keep telling me they miss me.
Check out their website: http://www.uua.org
GentlyFeral
this morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
Well, most of my forbidden pleasures have been fairly big ones -- group gropes, witchcraft, and all that...
but among the little ones I can count playing odd holiday records and wearing pants to church.
GentlyFeral
mostly skirtless
in my xmas tree post i got sidetracked with the joke gift story and forgot one crucial point.. what christmas means to me.. i didn't really get into christmas immediately after i got fired from the wts.
it wasn't until several years later that i was befriended by the family of a coworker at midas.
his kids and i just took to each other.
Mike,
While we're at it, here's another hug for
(((((((((((your dad))))))))))))
GentlyFeral
i have already gotten an email from someone stating that their gift arrived safely in the mail.
i thought it would be nice to start a thread where we can post what we got (for those nosey like me who want to know!
) and a thank you.. as for me, i haven't even begun yet!
Queer_Reality, did your present arrive yet?
Damn. I've just blown my cover.
GentlyFeral
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on page 105 of her book awakening of a jehovah's witness, diane wilson writes that she knew many witness women "who wore a charm of a watchtower on a necklace as an outward symbol of the organization, the source of their salvation".. i have never heard of this practice, and i find it difficult to believe.
can anyone verify that this indeed is true, that at one time it was common for jw women to wear watchtower charms?
Might have been a local fashion. A dear JW friend of mine had a gold ring with the Tetragrammaton engraved on the outside and "Jehovah loves you" on the inside. It never became a local fashion but everybody thought it was a pretty trinket.
Some people around here (Northern California) used to have YHWH bumper stickers on their cars because they were just so darn proud to be True Christians TM , until some public speaker advised against it because "it would look bad if you were seen driving recklessly with the Divine Name on your car."
gently feral