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  Book Study Doubters: It's so confirmed

  by Not Feeling It in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yo.

  it's a lock.

  sunday is the day.

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  And how do you know your mom is not just a JWD lurker (or participant?) who is dying to break some WTS news to you? ;-)
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  4 the Faders. How did u get out leading the cong in prayer while fading?

  by blkblk13 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've always had serious doubts but now that i am @ a point in my life were my parents have helped me to purchase my first place and now that i am no longer under their wing i feel like i am in a position to start doing something about it.

  nothing drastic but just the beginnings of a gradual fade b/c i don't want to humiliate them in the circuit b/c they r very well-known and admired in the circuit, plus i owe them alot and am still a little financially dependent on them.

  so my dad is an elder and conducts the bookstudy.

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  Stop turning in time and the problem will resolve itself.

  Losing privileges was great... it had the side effect of making me less missed at meetings. :-) And let me tell you this right now... nothing facilitates a fade like a well-timed move to another congregation. Especially if you still want to associate with any of the people from the first congregation. They never see you at meetings or out in service because you're not in their hall. Works great.
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  Never Had Strong Feelings - Did You Experience that as a JW?

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i went to a funeral and i cried cause i thought it was what you were supposed to do.. went to a wedding and didn't really care, just was happy cause everyone else was.. there was just never any strong feelings, except depression of course.. but anyways, did you guys ever experience that?

  no strong feelings as a jw?

  now that i'm coming out, i'm noticing that i'm starting to actually get more feelings... not sure if that's a jw thing or just cause i'm seeing a phychiatrist now... however, i do notice that with hubby, no strong feelings.

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  david_10: And GUILT. My god, they somehow could make you feel guilty for taking the air you breathe, and that's not much of an exaggeration.

  No exaggeration at all... every breath you take is a breath your sinful behind doesn't deserve, right?
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  *********** We love baseball******************

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this is a baseball tribute thread.

  please post anything and everything about baseball memories, the game, your favorite team, players opinions on the designated hitter rule.

  baseball brings back the magical feelings of childhood and tagging along with my older siblings to the little league games played at the parks my mother worked when she was the art director for mobile parks and recreation.

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  I occasionally get tickets for the local minor league team... great seats, we're literally putting our feet up on the dugout.

  Even non-baseball fans like me can enjoy that. Also, they throw hot dogs from the field and we're in primo position to snag 'em. :-D
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  YOUR DAILY JOURNAL

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.

  however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

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  I am drinking a beer, doing my college homework online, while checking into JWD to make sure I don't get it done too fast.

  And I must say I am pwning this HW considering I don't study at all.

  So many people here have such heavy stuff going on. I need to not take for granted how lucky I am that currently:

  No beloved family members or pets are at death's door.

  Nobody I care about is shunning me.

  I feel good physically.

  I will, gods willing, graduate in two years... with an actual WTS-disapproved college degree.

  I feel kinda like Homer Simpson when he told a grieving Lisa, "I'm lucky because I've never lost anyone special to me." I can't relate to the serious ordeals that life throws at people because for the most part I have not faced them. All in good time, of course... but I am going to revel in the short-lived paradise of now.
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  *********** We love baseball******************

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this is a baseball tribute thread.

  please post anything and everything about baseball memories, the game, your favorite team, players opinions on the designated hitter rule.

  baseball brings back the magical feelings of childhood and tagging along with my older siblings to the little league games played at the parks my mother worked when she was the art director for mobile parks and recreation.

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  I liked baseball more as a young kid, before it was pushed aside by football and basketball, but I do have a few good memories.

  When I stopped homeschooling and went to public school for the first time, I of course had had little exposure to participation in sports of any kind, sucked at everything and was about the smallest kid in my class to top it off.

  In PE I was the kid who everyone "moved in" for, like even the infield moved in to be further infield.

  So one sunny day I went up to bat and belted one right down the middle... I'll never forget how the center fielder leaped for the ball as it whiffed off the top of his glove... home run baby.

  What I lacked in athleticism I usually didn't make up for with effort, but it wasn't for lack of trying. Every play was life or death to me. And so it was that during the 7th grade softball unit, my team was getting absolutely killed and most of our guys were phoning it in, as by rights they should have been as the period was ending in about two minutes. I was playing second base, the batter drilled one right to me, I caught the ball in self-defense and sprinted toward the now-backpedaling runner who had left first. I went horizontal, stretched out my tiny arm and tagged him just before I hit the ground full force. Had my arm in a sling for a week afterward, but made the singlehanded double play and never regretted it.

  A dude like me has to hang on to every positive sports moment... ;-D
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  OK, so I revised the letter mostly becasue of Scottsman... please read

  by dawg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dad, .

  since our time on this planet is short, i wanted to take a moment and tell you that you were the person that i loved more than any other person in the world.

  nothing has made me sadder than the events that have surrounded this last year; events that were years in the making yet in my mind were unavoidable.

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  Damn, Dawg... that almost makes me tear up and I'm just a heartless, miserly SOB.

  If Dad reads that it can't fail to touch him on some level... if not, you'll still be better off for having wrote it and put it out there into the ether.

  Thanks for sharing as so many here are obviously in a similar situation... both my parents are out now, praise Vishnu, but plenty of family is still in and I get where you're coming from.
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  Why do I feel like I'm losing my wife to this website?

  by sarabi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a jw in good standing and she is too.

  she has had a lot of questions.

  now, i feel like there is a division between us.

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  Regarding the propensity to spend time on a message board rather than with people in real life, I suggest this possibility: If your wife were able to discuss the matters that concern her with those close to her to the extent she felt necessary, there would be little need to seek out additional discussion on the internet.

  As baptized Witnesses there are very few persons we can go to as non-judgmental "sounding boards" for our thoughts. That is a basic human need. The Watchtower does not allow for this within the congregation; indeed no Witness is free to speak their mind or voice their concerns within earshot of a loyal Witness for fear of accusations of "apostasy;" actual enmity against God.

  Regarding the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" and their concern for our well-being, only Jesus can pronounce a slave faithful or discreet. It is meaningless for the slave to pronounce himself such. As Jesus himself said, "If I alone bear witness about myself, my witness is not true." (John 5:31)

  As Witnesses we are conditioned to associate the FDS with a particular handful of men in New York, when nothing Biblically supports that self-designation.

  Personally, my initial investigation only two years ago was bolstered by the knowledge that Biblically, every single organization chosen by God turned apostate, and individuals were faced with a choice whether they would be loyal to "God's chosen organization" or to God himself.

  By definition, the Truth has nothing to fear from investigation of the facts.

  Support your wife's search for truth and take the journey together.
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  Crazy Rumored or Authentic Quotes of Celebrities about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is going to be fun !

  being raised for 44 years in the witnesses myself as i'm sure many of you heard rumored experiences dealing with celebrities.

  funny stuff !

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  I have not heard the Earth Wind and Fire story, but I've heard similar urban legends. Normally the setting is either a magic or hypnotism act, like a stage show in Vegas. The performer is trying to hypnotize someone, or levitate someone, or whatever, and it's not working, and he asks the audience are any JWs here, and someone says yes, then the performer says the trick won't work with a JW in the room because it scares the spirit away or some such crap.

  Apparently even though the JW decided to attend a spiritistic show, some holy spirit still stuck to him, like some sort of divine dog doo on a stick.

  Weak-ass demon... seriously, of all the evil spirits out there, that has to be one of the wimpiest ones.
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  Espresso article on WT website

  by loosie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what does espresso have to do with god's message?!?!?

  well nothing but they wrote about it anyway.

  hey at least they didn't say espresso isn't for christians.. http://www.watchtower.org/e/19971108/article_01.htm.

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  cognac: I liked the Watching the World and the experiences.

  Well, most of the experiences anyways... Wonder if they would irritate me if I read them now...

  They probably would. I've found that the experiences give the WTS a chance to say things they could not get away with if they were using their own words. It's a way for the WT to say something, while denying they ever said it.

  For example... the WT could never get away with saying that God sometimes kills those who oppose the preaching work (other than at Armageddon of course).

  However, if it's related as part of an experience... well that's not the WT's official position... it's just one person's experience. But since it's obviously approved by the WTS and in the publication, therefore it is part of the 'food at the proper time' from Jehovah himself and everyone believes it.

  In the March 1, 1972 Watchtower:

  I met a man who said: “I am a clergyman. I have preached against you people before and I will do so again.” Although only seventeen years old at the time, I feared Jehovah and with deep concern replied: “I would be afraid to do that, sir, lest God would strike me dead.” Not long afterward I met one of the parishioners of this clergyman. She told me she left the church during the sermon he preached against the Bible Students as “I did not like what he was saying.” Thus she missed a sobering incident. While attacking Jehovah’s people from his pulpit, the clergyman died. The newspapers announced his death was from a heart attack.

  It is certainly strongly implied that God struck the clergyman dead for his opposition to the Watchtower. The WTS could never make this claim with its own voice. So it used one of its victims'. Classy.