Posts by GermanXJW

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WT U-Turn on "Great Crowd" (May 1,200...

by stevieb1 in

the following is taken from questions from readers p.31 of the my 1, 2002 watchtower.

it is the wt response to the question: "when john saw the "great crowd" rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple, in which part of the temple were they doing this?".

quote.

GermanXJW

It seems to me that this New Light was introduced in 1998:

*** w98 2/1 21 The Other Sheep and the New Covenant ***
[Box on page 21]
Sacred Service In The Temple
The great crowd worships with anointed Christians in the earthly courtyard of Jehovah’s great spiritual temple. (Revelation 7:14, 15; 11:2) There is no reason to conclude that they are in a separate Court of the Gentiles. When Jesus was on earth, there was a Court of the Gentiles in the temple. However, in the divinely inspired plans of Solomon’s and Ezekiel’s temples, there was no provision for a Court of the Gentiles. In Solomon’s temple, there was an outer courtyard where Israelites and proselytes, men and women, worshiped together. This is the prophetic pattern of the earthly courtyard of the spiritual temple, where John saw the great crowd rendering sacred service.
However, only priests and Levites could enter the inner courtyard, where the great altar was situated; only priests could enter the Holy; and only the high priest could enter the Most Holy. The inner courtyard and the Holy are understood to foreshadow the unique spiritual condition of anointed Christians on earth. And the Most Holy pictures heaven itself, where anointed Christians receive immortal life along with their heavenly High Priest.—Hebrews 10:19, 20.

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Contacting the WBTS through their site

by DazedAndConfused in

i went to their official website today and skimmed their articles on child molestation and it made me a bit angry to say the least.

they briefly talked about going to the authorities but not once did they stress that it was something that should be done in every case.

i then clicked on the "contact us" link.

GermanXJW

They briefly talked about going to the authorities but not once did they stress that it was something that should be done in EVERY case.

I think you cannot put it that way. I know of a not JW related case . While I would love to kill that ****, she is an adult now and does not want to speak about the things happened, let alone to go to the authorities. I respect her desicion and there are a few who know too but they also keep their mouth shut.

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Access to the KH Libary.

by jerome in

when you were a jw could you read any book that was in the kh libary any time you wanted?.

are the book like.

"millions now living will never die".

GermanXJW

Libraries in Germany usually start in 1945 (volumes). But there are also some Dawns, Photo-Dramas and some other older stuff inherited from older brothers.

The conductor of the TMS is responsible for the library. I attended congregation where you could just pick a book, had to write your name in a list but there was also one where you had to read in the library and could not take the books home. The local congregation has a photo copier.

But most people don't care about the old books - the new ones are boring enough.

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Interesting NWT Stuff

by SYN in

got this in one of my xjw mailing lists, have a lookie guys!

flame away!.

examining translations with jehovah's witnesses.

GermanXJW

Perhaps BeDuhn and Kedar are unaware of the lack of credentials that plague this organization's translators.

That reads to me: they should have better kicked the men than writing about the contents of the NW. => ad hominem

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Post quotes from bible you are skeptical of

by ashitaka in

jw
friends

thought this might be interesting to both religous and non-religous types.. perhaps leaving out revalation might be a good idea.....you know why, but if you've got one from there, go right ahead and post it.. mine is a popular one:.

isaiah 2:4, revised standard version.

"he shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshears, and spear into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.".

GermanXJW

BluesBrother, thankyou for your attempt to explain the reason for the miracle. Not long ago, I used to have that approach.

But in this particular case the man with the axe was "one of the sons of the prophets". It was not necessary to convince him of Elisha's has God's spirit or to prepare him to listen to Elisha's message. It was just a convinient way to get the borrowed axe back.

Still, it is a question to believe it or not, but to me it sounds rather strange.

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What do you think will happen when all the FDS die

by termite 35 in

i'm not planning anything..... but when they all pop off, what are the rest going to do?they think the ns will come before they all die, so how the heck will they cope with it ,scriptually speaking/ surely cause a few to 'desert'?

there was a thread a few days ago about elders being up graded to fds status by some out of context crappily applied scripture;do you think they'll explain the absence of god's action with' the fds is still here!.

or will they work everyone up into a horribly humiliating fever pitch of protelisizing ,the like of which we have yet to see?

GermanXJW

The FDS will be the WTS - whoever may run it...

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What do you think will happen when all the FDS die

by termite 35 in

i'm not planning anything..... but when they all pop off, what are the rest going to do?they think the ns will come before they all die, so how the heck will they cope with it ,scriptually speaking/ surely cause a few to 'desert'?

there was a thread a few days ago about elders being up graded to fds status by some out of context crappily applied scripture;do you think they'll explain the absence of god's action with' the fds is still here!.

or will they work everyone up into a horribly humiliating fever pitch of protelisizing ,the like of which we have yet to see?

GermanXJW

Some brother near here a while ago announced he was suddenly annointed; and everyone accepted it as NOW it made sense!(they are so spiritually perceptive arn't they?!)

As far as I know Gerrit Lösch of the GB did not take from the bread and the wine until his wife had died. He was born in the 1940s.

I think they will be silent about the annointed for a while. The term Governing Body will remain; it's not from the Bible and you can do with it whatever you want. They want care if the member claim to be annointed or not. It will consist of remainers from todays GB and people like Larson and Adams. Nobody will doubt that they belong to the GB because "Has Jehovah not used them in a most favorable way"?

After some time all JW will be "annointed to accomplish their service".

After some decades it will be just a footnote in Proclamers, Vol. II that "in old times some among God's people understood the term 'annointed' to be applied to some Christians only. This was changed later."

Or how many remember that the term "Jehovah's Witnesses" was used for the annointed only?

Or how many

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Post quotes from bible you are skeptical of

by ashitaka in

jw
friends

thought this might be interesting to both religous and non-religous types.. perhaps leaving out revalation might be a good idea.....you know why, but if you've got one from there, go right ahead and post it.. mine is a popular one:.

isaiah 2:4, revised standard version.

"he shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshears, and spear into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.".

GermanXJW

"But as one was felling a beam, the axe head fell into the water: and he cried, and said, Alas, master! for it was borrowed. And the man of God said, Where fell it? And he shewed him the place. And he cut down a stick, and cast [it] in thither; and the iron did swim. Therefore said he, Take [it] up to thee. And he put out his hand, and took it." (2 Kings 6:5-7, KJV)

I cannot believe God's prophet was cruising around just to use his supernatural power to find a borrowed axe that got lost.

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Looking for name suggestions.

by Tammie in

i finally surprised my husband by getting him two parakeets.

now i am trying to figgure out what to name them.

when it comes to giving names that is something he does not want to do.

GermanXJW

Charles and Taze

or

Joseph and Franklin

or

Nathan and Homer

or

Frederick and William

or

Milton and George

but maybe

Raymond and Victor

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What do you think will happen when all the FDS die

by termite 35 in

i'm not planning anything..... but when they all pop off, what are the rest going to do?they think the ns will come before they all die, so how the heck will they cope with it ,scriptually speaking/ surely cause a few to 'desert'?

there was a thread a few days ago about elders being up graded to fds status by some out of context crappily applied scripture;do you think they'll explain the absence of god's action with' the fds is still here!.

or will they work everyone up into a horribly humiliating fever pitch of protelisizing ,the like of which we have yet to see?

GermanXJW

Reminds me of Metallica's "The Unforgiven" ;-)